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Contents 1 New title 2 This article needs work! 3 Game list 4 PLEASE 4.1 Commentary 4.2 Answer 5 Heading titles

[edit] New title

I just read about this, just wondered if this is enough to get this mentioned on here yet. Here is the site address from IGN about the new game. http://wireless.ign.com/objects/958/958506.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.31.45.49 (talk) 23:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

That's probably enough to add it here. I'm a bit busy with the KH articles right now, so I may not get to it right away. If someone else has the time, go for it. Thanks for the info. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] This article needs work!

There is so much missing information and inaccurate info that I think I'm going to puke! Buzda 02:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Then be bold and change it. There's nothing stopping you. That said, much of the information is sourced now, and I doubt that the veracity of those sources is anything but genuine. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

To be quite honest, the reason some info is still unsourced is that I've found conflicting release dates of some titles. IGN said one thing, GameSpot said another. Also since I'm not that familiar with the most of the Castlevania series, I had some questions about some titles as well. I was hoping to get this to Featured List, but ran into the above problems. Any help would be appreciated. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 06:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC))

I'll see what I can do then. Best of luck. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. If you or anyone else could help clear up some things I think it'll help organize the list.

1. It's my assumption that Castlevania (video game), Vampire Killer, and Castlevania Chronicles are essentially the same game but on different systems. Is this correct or are the three different enough to be considered separate titles?
2. Does WP:VG have a policy about conflicting release dates from two reliable sources?
3. Sexy Parodius doesn't seem to have anything related to Castlevania. Does another game in the Parodius (series) have a connection?

Those were the most pressing issues I encountered. The rest is just referencing the info and finding some sources for some of the more obscure titles. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 06:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC))

As to those concerns:

1. I believe they are the same game, just on different systems. The first two are basically the same. Castlevania Chronicles is close enough that I would consider it roughly the same game.
2. Not that I'm aware of. Bringing it up at WT:VG would perhaps be best.
3. No idea. I never knew that it had a Castlevania parody when I saw this page.

And just FYI, that the base of my Castlevania knowledge is primarily in the more recent games (hence my writing of Characters in Castlevania: Sorrow series), with sparse knowledge of the older works. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, something I stumbled upon at GameSpot. This looks useful. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Friggin sweat! I'll have to read through that in the morning. Thanks for the find. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 07:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC))

Here I go:

1. Castlevania, Vampire Killer, Haunted Castle, Super Castlevania IV and Chronicles ARE NOT the same game. They are all essentially retellings of the original Castlevania, but COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES.
2. I'll skip this one.
3. The Castlevania reference in Sexy Parodius is found in Stage 3B (which is a castle inhabited with mice). The song "Vampire Killer" (BGM from CVs Stage 1) is played briefly at the beginning of the Stage 3B's BGM. The song "Poison Mind" (boss music from CV) is briefly played at the beginning of the Medusa boss' music at the end of the stage. Honestly, these CV references aren't really that important for this game to be mentioned on this page IMHO. Buzda 21:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, let's remove Sexy Parodius then. A quick question though, are Castlevania and Vampire Killer different enough, graphically and level design-wise, to be different games? Chronicles, Super, and Haunted Castle seem different enough, but the first two seem awfully similar to me. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC))

While most of both games character/enemy sprites are identical, but re-colored, and each stage takes place in the same settings (usually with the same BGM) the gameplay is very much different. The MSX had scrolling limitations so instead of scrolling gameplay, each stage was played in single screen portions and Simon had to find a key in each area to advance in a stage. While some people would consider this simply the MSX version of Castlevania, which it pretty much is, Konami considers it a separate title. Akumajou Dracula X: Chi no Rondo wouldn't have the X (roman numeral for 10) if Vampire Killer was considered just a "port" or "the same game as Castlevania".

And while we're on the topic of ports and remakes, I think Chronicles and Dracula X Chronicles should be mentioned in their own sections in this article. They are considered major releases within the series, despite being enhanced remakes. Also, the people editing this article are considering Castlevania: Dracula X as a re-release of Akumajou Dracula X: Chi no Rondo when it is in fact a completely different game only re-using many of the sprites from Chi no Rondo. It's essentially a re-telling of Chi no Rondo's story but A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STAGES. Even the Japanese title for the game, Akumjou Dracula XX, should give you a hint. Why are people with little CV knowledge even editing this article in the first place? Buzda 04:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

First, that is an entirely uncalled for personal attack on people who have been editing the article. You, in no way, shape, or form, own this article or are able to restrict the people who can edit this article. Civility is the cornerstone of our discussions here and will be maintained at all times. When dealing with people who are making entirely good faith edits to improve an article, treat them as such, and if their work needs correcting, then so be it. If you truly believe that there are factual errors in the article, or other problems, then be bold and correct them yourself. If your knowledge does indeed extend to this material, then use it towards constructive ends. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 05:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

As Sephiroth already stated, there is no need for such behavior. We have already commented on our own lack of knowledge of the series, to continue to verbally bash us does the article or anybody no good. Now if you want me to respond in turn and find holes in the reasoning behind your argument I can, however that won't get us anywhere. You are obviously passionate and knowledgeable about these games and could be a great asset in improving this article to Featured List, but if you don't work with us I don't see how that will be possible. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC))

I agree I got out of line in the last sentence I typed, but it is just extremely annoying editing an article in this type of format with so many inaccuracies. I respect everyone who contributes to this great website and articles like this one, but please research and review what you submit before you submit it. It would make clean up so much easier. Buzda 02:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

It's ok. I understand the frustration that can come from editing on this website. But this list was split off from the main Castlevania article, and many of the original mistakes were carried over from there. Additional mistakes were made by me when I tried editing it without actually playing the games and finding conflicting information on the older games. But that is also were Wikipedia's weakness can be its strength. With the right editors we can get this thing cleaned up. As long as we assume good faith, we can work together quite well. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Game list

Let's get this sorted out and decide which titles should be listed as their own entry. I think we should also discuss sorting them; if they need to be sorted, not sure if they do or not. One possible idea that came to mind is having a "Console" section and a "Handheld/Mobile" section. Anyway, here is the current listing games. Do we need to modify it?

Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC))

Castlevania Chronicles and Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles should really have their own separate spot in this article. While they are both enhanced remakes of older games, they are considered major Castlevania releases none-the-less and not just a simple port of another game to another system. Plus it makes the article much less confusing.Buzda 02:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. The more I look over these things, the more confused I get. The X Chronicles I understand. I added a separate section for those. But this whole Castlevania, Vampire Killer, Akumajou Dracula, and Chronicles thing is really starting to make my head hurt. I realize that they were released at different times and have gameplay and graphical differences, but the manner in which to organize them honestly escapes me. The thing that gets me is the similarities are there and apparent, but they each have varying levels of similarity between each other.
It's like the Famicom release, yes it was released in Japan for the first time on that system. But because the NES and Famicom are essentially the same system, the first NES release is more notable. That and the Famicom release was not the first Japanese release of the game. Let's see what Sephiroth says, cause my mind is a bit frazzled. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC))

Yeah, organizing the series and making it easy to comprehend for people unfamiliar to the series is no easy task. Hell, I'm very familiar with the series and I still get confused! You have ports, you have remakes that are practically completely different games (Vampire Killer, Haunted Castle, Super CV IV, Akumajou Dracula [X68000]), remakes that are remakes in one country but considered brand new sequels in another(Super CV IV is a sequel outside Japan), remakes that are a remake of a remake (Castlevania Chronicles), and that is just a few examples. Buzda 18:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PLEASE

Please talk about it in the article:

• Dracula Battle New Classic Perfect Selection
• Dracula Battle Perfect Selection
• Dracula Battle Perfect Selection 2

[edit] Commentary

Could you elaborate more on those, I'm not exactly sure what those are. I googled them and found some soundtrack listings. Are these albums? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Answer

I wrote that I was before.

Yes man! Castlevania has several CDs of songs, many, many even! Speak to the staff of the main article on Castlevania for them to make paragraphs in an article about this, because I can not because they do not speak English fluently, probably you may have noticed that this text was not very good, it is because I am a Brazilian and I using a translator to write and understand what you speak. Please write when you use simple words, because once the translation is easier and the errors are minor, okay?

The best sites on about it is this: Http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/multi/soundtracks.htm Http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/media.html

What think?

MisterMario92 15h59min de 29 de Janeiro de 2008 (BR)

This article is a list of the Castlevania video games. A list of soundtracks would not be appropriate here. An appropriate article would be "Music of Castlevania" or "List of Castlevania soundtracks". I will try to see if that article can be created later. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC))

Ok man! Very good! MisterMario92 22h31min de 30 de Janeiro de 2008 (BR) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.226.64.223 (talk) 00:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heading titles

Let's discuss this instead of going back and forth. May I ask why you feel the first heading should be labeled "Titles"? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC))