Talk:List of Cajuns
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[edit] Acadians vs. Cajuns
I clicked on the link to List of Cajuns to find information to bolster my position in a discussion I was having with an American as to whether the French culture and French language were dying. I hoped to find the names of noteworthy Americans on this list. But the list is redirected to List of Acadians, which, while interesting, are all Canadians.
Are there noteworthy Americans with a Cajun ethnic background? -- Geo Swan 17:54, 2005 Mar 12 (UTC)
- I have corrected this by making a separate List of Cajuns; see also the Category:Cajuns. -- Aaron charles 15:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] True Cajuns?
Not everyone on this list would be called "Cajun" by a Cajun. They might all be from Louisiana, but here distinctions do tend to be made between Cajuns and non-Cajuns. The list would be better described as noteworthy Louisianans. C. Comeaux
- There is already a list of noteworthy Louisianians. For now I have made some revisions to the page: linked to People from Louisiana and added "descent" to the explanation. Cajun status is usually self-proclaimed (occasionally added creatively in bios, though still a stretch). Despite its less-than-perfect DNA matching, I think there is some value to the list. ACMe 19:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
A better title may be "People of Cajun Descent/Ancestry." That would not designate who is and who isn't a "true Cajun" - but at the same time, it would make it more clear that some of the people listed are not primarily Cajun.72.191.189.123 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rachael Ray
The source only says her father is Cajun. I'm not deleting it yet. I suspect there is probably a source out there that calls her a Cajun. Mad Jack 22:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, there are many. On her shows, she always talks about her father being Cajun and her mother being Italian. Michael 01:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- But you once again just said her father is Cajun! Not that she is. It means we can list her father, but we need a source that actually says she herself is a Cajun. That's what I need to find. Mad Jack 01:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- If her father is, she is. It's that simple. Ray also talks about the influence her paternal heritage had on her cooking, too. Michael 01:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- That's your opinion/POV, and it needs to be kept away from this and other pages. The only POV that we need to be here is that of reliable sources. If they have called Ray a Cajun, we can too, if not, not. It doesn't matter what Wikipedia editors think on the matter, only thing that matters is what the sources say on Ray. Mad Jack 04:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- If her father is, she is. It's that simple. Ray also talks about the influence her paternal heritage had on her cooking, too. Michael 01:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- But you once again just said her father is Cajun! Not that she is. It means we can list her father, but we need a source that actually says she herself is a Cajun. That's what I need to find. Mad Jack 01:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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- I will put Rachael Ray back on the list in order to be consistent. In almost every list of people of different nationalities, having a parent of that nationality warrants inclusion on the list. Even having a grandparent is quite often used. We might have different views on how correct this is, but as long as these criterias are used for other groups I don't find any reason for applying harsher rules for Cajuns. JdeJ 08:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, it doesn't matter "how much" X ancestry a person has - both parents, 1 parent, grandparent, whatever. The only "Rule" across all of Wikipedia is that a source specifically calls a person that "X" (i.e. "Rachel Ray is X", as opposed to "Rachel Ray has X grandmother" or something like that; regardless of what standards the source uses to call the person an "X"). So, is there a source that calls Rachel Ray herself a Cajun? I would imagine there should be Mad Jack 06:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- I will put Rachael Ray back on the list in order to be consistent. In almost every list of people of different nationalities, having a parent of that nationality warrants inclusion on the list. Even having a grandparent is quite often used. We might have different views on how correct this is, but as long as these criterias are used for other groups I don't find any reason for applying harsher rules for Cajuns. JdeJ 08:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
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- hey, i'm from thibodaux sha, and i love rachel but she aint no cajun. she was born in cape cod. that's *way* north of I-10 ! i think it's a marketing ploy. wow. a cajun! funny that here she says that her father is a cajun creole!? [2]
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well, which is it? a french american, a cajun, or a creole? i had to laugh when i saw her name on the list. rachel ray. funny.
- At least she is Italian-American, but having multiple ancestry is of course very common, especially in the US and Canada. I think I've seen Milla Jovovich in four different lists of nationalities, that might already be stretching it a bit. JdeJ 19:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Footnotes?
I'm unsure the footnotes for the list of Cajuns are particularly helpful or appropriate for Wikipedia. Many of them are in quotation marks, but I don't know what source or who is being quoted. Moreover, the content of these footnotes seems to be editorial in nature, rather than academic or documentary. Perhaps they should be deleted in whole or part? --Skb8721 02:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Captain Sisko
Captain Sisko was a black person, not a Cajun. I think the correct designation would be Creole_(people). 75.32.162.129 (talk) 03:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
