Talk:List of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation characters

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[edit] Merge Proposal

[edit] Discussion

Actually I think that List of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation cast members should be imported here to replace what we have and make it a list. The information here is beyond the call for a list page. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: after reading what you said about the information in this article, I think that we should perhaps create a smaller article, of the type "Minor CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Characters" to keep biography info on the detectives, lab techs etc who do not have their own articles. Also, if we import the information here, we need to put character names before cast names in the tables, as on User:Ipstenu/List_of_CSI_Characters. Maybe just put the tables you created into the cast list format that I set up. Editus Reloaded 16:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

    • I think that's a good idea, Editus. Then we can link up all the minor chars to there. I'll play with that in my sandbox :) (I'm for giving this a week, since it's not a frequented page). -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 16:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I have completed the new Main/Recurring cast section for the possible merged article, see it here. Note especially the status info in small text e.g. manner of death, Sara trapped under a car wreck. Post comments here or on my talk page. Editus Reloaded 19:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Posting here to keep everyone in the loop. I like that page! My only suggestion is to make the comment under Sophia (Formerly CSI) small as well. Nicely done :) ETA: I mocked up a Minor characters page -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 19:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major 'n Minor

I'll see your mock-up, and raise you one created page! I've also added a little more info on the detectives and crime lab techs. This new article, however, raises the question: what is a minor character? Perhaps the best way to go about this is to ask: what is a major character? My proposals below

Major characters

  • Opening credits characters ("Main Characters" in other articles)
  • CSIs: Ecklie, possibly Keppler
  • Crime lab techs: Hodges, Archie, Mia, Bobby Dawson, Super Dave Phillips
  • Detectives/LVPD: Sam Vega, Ray O'Riley, possibly Cavaliere (not Det. Vartann, insufficient notable appearances to justify), Sheriff Rory Atwater
  • Bad guys: my current "Notable Villains and Serial Killers" table, maybe without Tammy Felton and Judge Cohen
  • Others: Lady Heather, Sam Braun, Lindsey, possibly Lily Flynn (Cath's mother)

Editus Reloaded 10:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I think Tammy falls under bad guy. Stockholm Syndrome or not, she was a bad bad girl. Judge Cohen can go up under ... Judges and Lawyers. To answer the question at hand, a 'Major' character is someone who appears regularly, if not in most episodes (Super David the Backup Coroner, Bobby Dawson, Hodges, Archie) or who had significant airplay/plots about them (Vega, O'Riley, Atwater, Mobley, and Lockwood, among others). The three 'big' serial killers (Blue paint (both), Paul Milander, and Crazy Miniature Lady) for certain. Family/Friends I'd keep to Lindsey, Sam, Lady Heather and Eddie. Cath's mom is minor, having only been in two episodes and sort of ... a plot contrivance for Cath and Sam. I hesitate at saying a blanket '10 eps or more are important enough', since there are going to be exceptions, but it may be a good starting point. 10 eps + or a major role in an episodes. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 13:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Ipstenu, I have to disagree (I am a chronic sufferer of stubbornasamuleitis). I know Tammy is a "bad bad girl" but she's not as major as the other three serial killers (she only killed 1 person for definite, the other three are under the felony murder law - when someone dies during the commission of a felony, all the conspirators are liable). We can put her in minor characters though. I stick to my guns about Judge Cohen being in Villains, he only appears in the series as a blackmailing crook, not as a judge; I mean, should we put Paul Millander in a separate subheading: "notable manufacturers of Hallowe'en paraphernalia"? Oh, and he kills people too. But that's just a hobby he has. His mum would be so proud (until he stuck a knife in her neck).

Next point: appearing in many episodes does not justify notability e.g. Vartann and the two Sheriffs have appeared frequently, but they do not have any major plots about them. Ditto O'Riley. We could include Lockwood because he had a major episode (he kind of died!), Cavaliere for the same reason (when he forced a confession from a 12-year-old) and Vega because he has a more involved back-story. Maybe the way to decide is to select those characters is to say that if one could write a decent-sized article, say at least the length of Maxine Valera or David Hodges, about a character then they are major. Thoughts? Editus Reloaded 16:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Reviewing this, we seem to be in agreement over which Crime Lab techs should be in, and I concede over the family/Eddie Willows issue. I'm gonna bring those sections in and wipe their current info off this page. Editus Reloaded 18:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poll

  • Following lack of feedback or discussion, I have merged in all relevant information; I will remove merge tags and set Cast Members as a redirect. Editus Reloaded 18:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)