Talk:List of British fascist parties

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WikiProject Fascism wants to know if the person or group described in this article can be reasonably described as fascist. WikiProject Fascism defines an entity which has not come to power as "fascist" if it fulfills six of the following criteria:
  1. exalting the nation, (and in some cases the race, culture, or religion) above the individual, with the state apparatus being supreme.
  2. stressing loyalty to a single leader.
  3. advocating violence or using modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition.
  4. advocating severe economic and social regimentation.
  5. advocating syndicalist corporatism.
  6. advocating totalitarian systems.
  7. declaring itself or holding itself out to be to be a fascist, national socialist, falangist, etc. movement.

Please comment on this entity's status here or leave commentary on the project's talk page.

For goodnes sake the BNP are right wing but not OFICIALLY Fascist. The National Front might be Fascist but they are not OFICIALLY Fascist. Are you some kind of far-left, pollitically correct, do-gooder???????????? If so why don`t you keep your political ideas to yourself. Wikipedia supports a neutral point of view not a biased one like yours. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.7 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 25 February 2006.

Holding oneself out to be a fascist movement is only one of the criteria used to determine whether a given movement deserves inclusion on this list; I've listed the other criteria above. While the BNP has not declared itself to be a fascist movement, they are an inheritor organization of the British Union of Fascists (most directly via the League of Empire Loyalists). The specifics of inclusion are probably better addressed on Talk:British National Party and Talk:British National Front. --Stlemur 23:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Answer the question you some kind of far-left, pollitically correct, do-gooder???????????? If so why don`t you keep your political ideas to yourself. Wikipedia supports a neutral point of view not a biased one like yours. Damn yank

Now come come. Get a hold of yourselfs, both of you. You both have points but if you look at the criteria for Fascism then you will notice that the BNP and the NF fit a couple of theese catagorys, but not all. Stlemur why don`t you be a bit more nuetral. Come on. Lets all be friends and peace all round, eh? MrHill 00:00 26 February 2006 (GMT)

Regarding the 07/03/2006 deletions by anons: I have reverted them, in accordance with what seems to be the consensus regarding the BNP and BNF. I note, furthermore, that no argument supporting the deletions has been offered other than to say that the parties are "not officially fascist" -- in other words, that they do not fulfill the final criterion as supported by the WikiProject. This may well be true, but it is not a necessary condition for inclusion. --Stlemur 00:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop all your politically correct rubbish "Stlemur" why are you such a do gooder.

Consensus in the articles on the BNF and BNP seems to be that both parties are, at the very least, strongly influenced by fascism and have been either outrightly or effectively fascistic in the past. On that basis, they deserve inclusion in this list, even if the BNP has indeed changed in recent years. If the statement that either party is disputed, that discussion should happen on the talk pages for those articles, not here.
Also, I ask that you please keep this discussion civil. While I respect your right to disagree, name-calling serves neither of us. --Stlemur 18:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

They are democratic or at least the BNP is more liberal. They support democracy. If you`re going to include them on this page then why not include every single British political party as they have at least one right wing issue, even the communist pary does. The BNP and the National Front support democracy, do not support corporatism, do not want to intern political undesirables and do not support totalitarian regimes. Why is wikipedia letting political correctness win.

[edit] Post-war

I'm staying clear of the debate about the BNP as consensus will never be had but I've added the post-War groups that I feel are non-controversial (some hope). Effectively I have put in those who have directly referenced the fascist or Nazi past in order to make their appeals and, where appropriate, included cautionary notes. I've avoided non-political parties due to the title of the article as well. Keresaspa 13:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)