Talk:List of British Asian people

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[edit] Beckinsales & Burma

The only Asian ancestry that Richard Beckinsale and his daughters have mentioned on their wikipedia article is Burmese and Burma isn't in wikipedia's definition of South Asian. Hence by the criteria at the topof the article they perhaps should't be included. However since Burma was a province of British India perhaps for these purposes it SHOULD count. I think some clarification is needed about what counts. For now I will put in heading that people of Burmese ancestry are being includedA Geek Tragedy 22:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freddie Mercury

Isn't Freddie Mercury Persian? Iranians arent South Asians, are they?

He was actually from Zanzibar from a Maharashtran Parsi family, he went to school in the UK and India but referring to Maharashtrans as Persian is rather like referring to Romani as being Indian or people from the UK with Norman ancestry as being French. Iran is in South West Asia, Zanzibar is actually off the coast of Africa, the Mahashtran Parsi's actually left Persia about 1,200 years ago --Lord of the Isles 22:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raghav

I have removed Raghav from the list because he is Canadian and not a British Asian.

[edit] Confusions

There seems to be some confusion of what constitutes British Asian - someone born in this country with parents born in this country but who is from a South Asian Community counts as British Asian whereas someone even if they were born in South Asia will only count as British Asian if they are from a long standing South Asian Community, thus Joanna Lumley and Cliff Richard are not British Asian because they were from English families.

In addition to this the term Anglo-Indian does not refer to anyone English living in South Asia, it refers to someone of mixed English and South Asian ancestry, thus Boris Karloff and his mother and grandmother Anna Leonowens (both of whom of course had changed their names - he was William Henry Pratt), but they were Anglo-Indians as apparently Anna Leonowen's mother was Bengali.

In fact the Indian Government who continues to maintain reserved places notably still on the railways for Anglo-Indians defines an Anglo-Indian as someone with an English (or presumably generally British as no doubt the Indian government doesn't distinguish) father and an Indian mother. As such especially given that the term British Asian is actually gradually dropping out of use with increasingly people describing themselves under the broader term desi which refers to all South Asians wherever they are, although some define themselves using regional or tribal terms or even by nation, indeed I was listening to the Nikki Bedi programme on the BBC Asian Network where she was saying that she defined herself as being Indian-Anglo because her father was Indian and her mother English, they also discussed the Indian Government's definition of Anglo-Indians that I referred to.

[edit] Removing the Beckinsale's

I am removing Richard, Samantha and Kate Beckinsale from the list as, as mentioned earlier, they're of Burmese not Indian descent [regardless of whether Burma was apart of the British Raj at one time or not].

Myanmar (formerly Burma) is classified as South East Asia and was only lumped in with the rest of South Asia for the administrative purposes of the British Empire, it is no more South Asian than China is, anyway even for those who had a single South Asian Great Grandparent describing them as being British Asian would be stretching things rather, no one would say that someone with a single Scottish Great Grandparent was Scottish - 1/4 ancestry really has to be considered a bare minimum when classifying someone as well as someones own personal statements about their identity.--Lord of the Isles 11:55, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Martin Bashir

Added Martin Bashir to list of journalists--Kathanar 20:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Samit Patel

Does anybody know his background? Lfh 13:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinks

Please stop removing the redlinks. If you doubt the veracity of a given name, bring it up here, thanks. Badagnani 02:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • How about you add some citations to show that the redlinks really are notable? Kappa 00:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article up for deletion

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of British Asian people (2nd nomination). Badagnani 02:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinks

Here are the redlinks removed from the article. Hopefully by now everyone is up on WP:V and its importance to Wikipedia. As soon as they have articles, please add them. Bear in mind no-one is suggesting these people do not exist, and proof of their existence is not sufficient to establish notability. WP:BIO has more.

  • Pathak Brothers, Pickle Industry
  • Akbar Kurtha, actor
  • Harminder Thind, Editor DesiDesi.com
  • Waheed Alli, Television producer.
  • Krishna Guha, Editorial leader writer for the Financial Times.
  • Nina Hussain, British TV newsreader.
  • Nimisha Kashyap, choreographer.
  • San-j Sanj,Presenter and reporter.
  • Ashanti Omkar, Journalist, poet and radio presenter
  • Varun Sharma, Television journalist.
  • Afshin Rattansi,writer and broadcaster.
  • Abdul Ahad, astronomer and science fiction author.
  • Abdul Smooth (DJ and Music Producer), Director of [Indian electronica]
  • Simon Nandhra, Music Producer
  • Darius Battiwalla, Musician and Conductor, Sheffield Philharmonic Chorus and the Royal Northern College of Music
  • Mike Banda (Michael Van Der Poorten), Trotskyist.
  • Philip Jadidi Councillor and former Respect Party PPC.

Deiz talk 07:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Also *Raj Asia, Music Producer/Engineer/Composer/Lyricist/DJ/Dance Choreographer/Programmer (USING PRO-TOOLS) who wasn't actually linked. Kappa 22:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)