Talk:List of Book of Mormon people

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Article merged: See old talk-page here --Descartes1979 (talk) 07:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Guideline for additions

  • Please insert names in alphabetical order
  • Please use superscripts for individuals with duplicated names
  • Please use names for listing, rather than titles; "Benjamin" rather than "King Benjamin". But...
  • Feel free to enter alternate identifications but please reference them to the common name. For example:
    • King Benjamin (see Benjamin).
  • Add enough information to uniquely identify the character but save most information for articles.
  • If the individual or group doesn't need a separate article but does deserve some mention please add them to Various Book of Mormon people.
  • Don't add people merely mentioned in the Book of Mormon. For example, don't add Moses.
    • Exception: Add Hebrew prophets mentioned in the Book of Mormon but not found elsewhere, such as Zenock.

[edit] Table??

These articles are also lists of BofM folk -- merge?? common format??

Would a table such as the format below be of any use? What columns would be best for reader reference? Would we want chapter and verse for source/reference material? Distinction between Nephite and Lamanite? The example below is only a suggestion. WBardwin 03:10, 7 November 2005 (UTC)


Name Date Description BofM Source
Nephi circa 600 BCE son of Lehi I and II Nephi
Jacob circa 590 BCE son of Lehi Jacob


My two cents: I think we can ultimately merge the list of BofM prophets and BofM rulers into this list, but perhaps with markers (special font, color, char?) to indicate which are prophets and/or rulers. On the other hand I don't think we should rush into it -- I'd rather wait for this list to settle into a preferred format and content.
I don't have any objection, per se, to a table format BUT at the moment I see it as more trouble than it's worth. Part of the problem is the relative inflexibility of a table -- some entries might need different information than we build into the table. It seems to me that an alphabetic TOC would be helpful though. I just don't know how to do that.
The one big thing I'd like to add to the current listings is a spread of dates rather than the "circa" date (which is taken from the LDS index). But that will take more time than I've got at the moment.
Finally, I'd like to see a Book of Mormon chronology article. There would be a lot of shared content with this list but in chronological rather than alphabetical order.--andersonpd 18:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting

I suggest the following --

  • Prophets -- bold font
  • Rulers -- italic font
  • Prophet Rulers -- bold italic font
  • BofM writers -- underline

--andersonpd 19:24, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mission Accomplished!

I think I've got all the entries in place. Some are still missing dates, etc.

I split off the groups to a separate article since this one was so big.

--andersonpd 21:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Good work on this article/list. -Visorstuff 21:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Table of Contents?

How about standardizing the Table of Contents? OneWeirdDude 03:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Proposal

I am copying our merger discussion from the page Persons in the Book of Mormon to this page, since the other talk page will be archived. I just want to be clear what was happening without people having to follow the archive links to figure it out. --Descartes1979 (talk) 07:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The result was merge into List of Book of Mormon people. --Descartes1979 (talk) 06:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I propose we merge this article with List of Book of Mormon people. The two articles are awfully redundant.

  • Merge --Descartes1979 (talk) 03:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge Certainly; these are redundant. Merge the other into this one, or move them both to List of persons in the Book of Mormon. If the list is too long, make List of persons in the Book of Mormon (A-M) and List of persons in the Book of Mormon (N-Z) and make the original a disambiguation page. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 21:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge OneWeirdDude (talk) 00:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge agreed, redundant articles are a nuisance and only create difficulty for readers. --Storm Rider (talk) 01:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge I didn't even realize that there were 2 lists. At a glance, they look like they overlap. Leon7 (talk) 02:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge — I don't have a preference of one article name over the other. Keep as much of the information from Persons in the Book of Mormon as possible. — Val42 (talk) 05:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Looks like the vote is pretty unanimous - so I will move forward with the merge rather than waiting for any other discussion. The merge itself will be a little tricky, so I will work on it piecemeal over the next few days. --Descartes1979 (talk) 06:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.


[edit] Merging Succession Boxes

There were 5 people that I could not easily merge from Persons in the Book of Mormon because of the succession boxes associated with them. Please comment on how we should include the boxes (if at all). They are given below for preservation (since we are changing Persons in the Book of Mormon to a redirect. --Descartes1979 (talk) 06:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cezoram

Preceded by
Nephi, son of Helaman		 (Cezoram)
Chief Judge of the Nephites
the 62nd-66th years of the reign of the judges,
or 30-26 B.C.		 Succeeded by
Cezoram's son
Preceded by
Cezoram		 (Son of Cezoram)
Chief Judge of the Nephites
the 66th year of the reign of the judges,
or about 26 B.C.		 Succeeded by
Seezoram, if not one of the other Gadianton robbers first

[edit] Nephihah

Preceded by
Alma the Younger		 Chief Judge of the Nephites
the 9th-24th years of the reign of the judges,
or 83-67 B.C.		 Succeeded by
Pahoran

[edit] Pacumeni

Preceded by
Pahoran II		 Chief Judge of the Nephites
the 40th-41st years of the reign of the judges,
or 52-50 B.C.		 Succeeded by
Helaman

[edit] Seezoram

What evidence do you have that Seezoram was a Gadiaton robber? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.153.236 (talk) 04:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Preceded by
unknown; eventually Cezoram's son		 Chief Judge of the Nephites
unknown, to around the 70th year of the reign of the judges,
or around 20 B.C.		 Succeeded by
unknown; eventually Lachoneus

[edit] Tubaloth

Preceded by
Ammoron		 King of the Lamanites
the 31st-? years of the reign of the judges,
or 60-? B.C.		 Succeeded by
unknown, eventually Aaron

[edit] Article name

It may be too late now, but I would have preferred that the name of the merged article contain the word "persons" rather than "people." I notice that there are no groups of people included in this article; should it? Leon7 (talk) 15:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Individual Articles for each Book of Mormon person? (The Splittist in me speaking)

Now that we have combined the two lists, I think we could use an article for each of the people in the list. This would solve the problem of the succession boxes above. This is obviously from a splittist philosophy, and maybe a mergist will come along and disagree. --Descartes1979 (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)