Talk:List of Arrested Development characters

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[edit] Steve Holt!

  • Should we include Steve Holt now that we know that he's GOB's son?
  • I don't see why not.
  • I added one. Rubber cat 06:48, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Correction

Gob is also known to be the biggest womanizer in the Bluth family and is frequently saught after by George Michael when he needs something his father will not give him such as marijuana for Lucille Austero - It was Buster who tried to get George Micheal to buy marijuana for Lucille 2, not GOB. --213.237.232.155 09:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Right, but George Michael went to him for Buster, which is what "saught(sic) after by George Michael" means. If it said "GOB sought George Michael for medical marijuana," it would be incorrect.

Dudewhiterussian 21:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

There are still three articles that need fully merging into this one - Carl Weathers (character), Maggie Lizer, and Oscar Bluth. I've also put delete tags on Category:Arrested Development characters and {{Arrested Development}}, as these will be obsolete post-merge. SJO mmmmm 11:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I merged Maggie Lizer and Oscar Bluth a while ago, and it seems like Carl Weathers made it in as well. --Christopherlin 09:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] LoL

Thank you for putting Carl Weathers on the page. I allways wanted to know who played him ;) :D I'm No Parking and I approved this message

[edit] Editing help

  • In the entry on Steve Holt, I put the line "basically a young G.O.B.". However, the line is actually ""basically a young you" (Michael was talking to G.O.B.) so it should be "basically a young [G.O.B.]". I can't for the life of me figure out how to put brackets on "G.O.B." if "G.O.B." is wikified. Help? Rubber cat 07:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Just put one bracket.

  • still doesn't work
I fixed it with: <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Gob]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>. Tntnnbltn 14:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] carl weathers

The segment on Carl Weathers needs incredible attention.


[edit] Bob Loblaw

I added a link to the bob loblaw law blog Decision of the Day.

[edit] George Oscar Bluth II

  • Someone needs to change all references to the eldest Bluth son so that his name is spelt the same for every mention. Not "GOB" then "G.O.B." then "Gob". Consistency!
    • Done, although I may have missed one or two. -- MisterHand 06:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I changed every reference to Gob as a person to 'Gob,' instead of GOB or G.O.B. The only time I left GOB in is for episode titles, and G.O.B. is used in Gob's title and his wife's name. I think that's accurate. --Damageisle 07:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gene Parmesan

I have added back Gene Parmesan, the family private investigator that has been involved in several episodes, and it's been deleted. Then I noticed that someone is now counting the number of times that someone has appeared in different episodes. This is a slippery slope, in that it requires everyone editing to be familiar with the entire canon of shows, since every show has the possibility of affecting every recurring character's position order and episode count. Gene's been in a least two shows and mentioned in a third when Michael calls him to have a third party checked out, and yet because I know the shows better than somene else editing, they removed the reference. A minor annoyance.

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What episodes other than "Amigos" has he been in? Rubber cat 07:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Gene Parmesan only appeared in the episode "Amigos", he has never appeared since. Michael did reference him once later, but he is still just a one-time character. This list is only for recurring characters, so I will now delete his entry. If the user who insists on keeping this character in the list would like to create a page for one-time characters, be my guest.

[edit] Pictures

I really appreciate whoever added the pictures for most of the characters but there are still several characters who need pictures on this page. Is anyone up for the challenge?

The picture of Buster is about the most hilarious picture on Wikipedia. --74.109.126.35 05:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Annyong Bluth

I have watched over and over the episodes involving Annyong Bluth. My parents, both born and raised in Korea for over 25 years, have confirmed for me my suspicions unequivocally that "Hel-loh" does not mean anything at all in Korean, much less "one day". Furthermore, I saw no indication that he was ever called, referred to, or in anyway identified as "Hel-loh", which does not sound anything like a Korean name, or word for that matter.

Which is why I'm having a hard time explaining the finale. My only guess is possible a strange North Korean dialect, or an extremely distorted word to sound like "hello" to make the joke come full circle.


--It is mearly a joke in the since that people call Annyong "Annyong", as that is what he said first to the Bluths, which is like an American kid being adopted by a Korean family, and he says "Hello" to them, and they keep calling him "Hello" because of it. When it is revield that is name is "Hel-Loh", this is ment to be funny, as it is like if "Hello" were to be named "Ann-Yong". Also, most people do not know Korean in the US, so you can pull off saying that Hel-Loh in Korean means "One Day", much like in Korea where you can say that Ann-Yong in English means "One Day". Savvy?

Can you break it down a little further for me? I'm still having trouble following. Damn these headaches. Wavy G 00:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
They (the writers) are taking advantage of the fact that not many people that watch the show know enough Korean to know that they're lying. --Raijinili 19:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Franklin

What do people think of adding a section about Franklin? Sure he's just a puppet, but he's treated as a standalone character by most of the Bluths and I'd say he deserves more than just a couple of sentences in Gob's profile.

Currently the Franklin section is too long, too many minor details. It needs a clean-up; and why does he among all the other characters get a crude mini Quotes section? Other characters have just as funny quotes and so if one would like to include Quotes, he should make a WikiQuote section, if there isn't one already. --WongFeiHung 22:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Franklin needs to be added to the family tree, as he was adopted by Gob -- slippyfoster 5.22.07

[edit] Tobias Fünke

I have two suggestions about Tobias, what do you guys think?

1.) When Tobias was practicing psychiatric medicine, he styled himself the world's first analyst/therapist, or analrapist. (He pronounced this en-AL-ruhpist.)

2.) Despite his general ineptitude, Tobias seems to have a talent for analyzing Michael. Although his dissections of Michael's personal problems (too controlling to have a relationship etc.) are quite accurate, they are dismissed due to his nature as an oblivious homosexual-in-denial living an absurd fantasy as an actor.

--- Never-nudeism is just another name for Gymnophobia - see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnophobia


"Lindsay, who married Tobias to spite her mother, is convinced that her husband is gay." I don't think Lindsay realizes it. --Raijinili 01:29, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

No, for instance, in the Pilot: Lindsey:"you're gay?" Tobias:"no, no, how many times do we have to go over this? I'm not gay". And he is not really gay, only sexually dysfunctional as far as we can conclude for sure. And I think this is something Lindsey accepts as the show goes on. Danski14 07:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ice the Bounty Hunter

Why doesn't Ice have a mention?Gamer83 04:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe Ice only appeared in one episode. If you could show that he appeared in 2 or more, then he certainly does warrant mention. I think GOB refers to him sometimes as one of his only "friends". For instance, all the way back in episode one he says "We need ice": very likely a subtle reference to this Ice. Danski14 07:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

He's in at least two episodes, Amigos (as a bounty hunter) and Good Grief (as a caterer), and Carl Weathers mentions he'll be playing him in Scandalmakers (not sure which episode). --Rubber cat 09:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot, he became a party cater. Danski14 15:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character's Age

I noticed that the children's birthdate are added to their sections. It says both of them were born in 1990. I thought it was implied that George Michael was older than Maebe by about a year or two. Mazinkaiser666 17:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This is something I paid attention to as I watched the show, and I think that it is pretty clear that Micheal and Maeby are both 15 by season two in 2005. They are in the same grade, as well, I believe. Although I seem to remember Maeby is once referred to as George Micheal's "younger cousin", it could be by only my a few months. Where did the exact dates come from? Birth dates are the best way to do it, as age changes from season to season. For instance, [1] says she is 14, but those articles were written in 2004. Danski14 07:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Another possibility is that they changed their minds. --Raijinili 04:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

True. I guess I wouldn't have a problem if anyone wants to change Maeby's to 1991. Danski14 05:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I am changing the months so Maeby is younger by a few. A good example of Maeby being 16 in the 3rd season can be found in Exit Strategy, where she has her 16th birthday. See also, My Hand to GOD, in the hospital scene George Micheal clearly says "Maeby is younger than me". Danski14 21:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IMdB Resource

Just thought I'd mention this IMdB list of all the characters, and the episodes they were in, which should be of help to future editors. [2]. Danski14 01:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ann hog

OK, I'm only a recent viewer of the show and have only seen so many episodes, but I don't think Michael calls Ann "Ann hog." The only time I've seen Michael use the phrase is to refer to George Michael- because George Michael was spending so much time with her, he was becoming an "Ann hog" as in hogging Ann. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 04:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds right to me. Your version, I mean. --Raijinili 03:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I stand corrected. Michael later says "Ann hog's coming?" in reference to Ann. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biiiiiig spoiler

Maeby is adopted, not Lindsey; could we please change that?

Uh, no, I'm afraid not. I guess you haven't watched the show far enough. :) Danski14 00:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Main Characters

I think its time to split the nine main characters off to their own articles. Their individual entries here are about as big as most fictional character articles I've seen, and well, this page is huge. Thoughts? Wavy G 03:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... That sounds like a pretty good idea. We will have to reformat the top of this page... I guess we can keep the family tree, and maybe interlink it? Or we could include short summaries, like on the main AD page, and/or we might even consider renaming this page to "recurring characters". There will also be a number of things we will have to do, such as add the template the bottom of each page, and fix all the links. However, it looks like almost all the links already point to the redirect pages which we will be replacing, so I don't think it will be much work. So I guess I don't have any major problem with the change. Danski14 04:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Another thing that just came to mind is that we probably would have to reword the articles to make it clear they are fictional characters. There is something to be said for having them all on one page. Danski14 04:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I'd totally love that... if they can be expanded with an out-of-universe perspective. That's how writing about fiction is expected to be done now- see the FAs on the fictional characters, Palpatine, Jabba the Hutt, and the GA Lord Voldemort, which was demoted and only re-promoted when publication history was added. But this shouldn't be that hard. DVD commentary and TV reviews of the show should help. I found newspaper articles, for instance, on the casting of George Sr. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Michael Bluth, freed of his family, at last. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 08:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I emancipated Maeby Fünke as well. By the way, my computer froze while I was writing it and I had to rewrite it, so I totally expect a barnstar for that. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 19:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Excellente. Thanks for the emancipation, to all involved. Wavy G 08:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Marta 3.0

Do we not count the third Marta that briefly appeared in flashback in forget-me-now? -- Jayunderscorezero 23:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In the Navy?

In an episode (I don't remember which), it said that Oscar was in the Army in Vietnam. But if he was on a swift boat, wouldn't he have been in the Navy? 12.218.145.112 02:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Starla's Bruises

I noticed last night in the episode "The one where they build a house" Starla has three bruises on her arm that look like marks where she has been grabbed.

Is this a real life injury or is it a joke related to her character? I ask because in some shot's they are so blindingly obvious (the scene where G.O.B unviels his business model par examplé). Cheers Fenton Bailey 11:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Little Justice/David Avram??/Tin Man entry

Why is there no entry on Little Justice. He is in more than one episode and I think his trait of changing his allegiance often (with White Power Bill as Little Justice, George as David Avram or whatever and Tin Man with Tobias/Dorothy) is noteworthy.

Jabso (talk) 03:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Buster's Parentage

The family tree says that Buster's father is Oscar. And even though this was a recurring theme through the second season, I thought I remember them revealing that George was undoubtedly the boy's father. Am I wrong in this Giovanni539 —Preceding comment was added at 19:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the original plan was to have George revealed as his real father. In the commentary in the 2nd season (when they did commentary the show hadn't been cancelled)when Buster was saying "my uncle is my father, my father is my uncle?" or something like that Hurwitz said "Imagine the confusion when we reveal that his father is his real father" referring to George. But the 3rd season was cut short and they had to rush a few things which meant that plan was scrapped. The last thing that happened in regards to that storyline was Buster assuming Oscar is his real father, nothing further was mentioned by the narrator so I think this is what we should assume also. Jabso (talk) 07:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Literal Doctor

I think the Ian Robert's literal doctor character should be included. He appears in a few episodes.24.80.30.65 (talk)Tristan —Preceding comment was added at 06:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Include Warden Gentles and Warden Buck?

Do you think the two wardens should be included in this page? If so, can someone add them? From IMDB:
James Lipton ... Warden Stefan Gentles (4 episodes, 2004-2005)
Rocky McMurray ... Warden James Buck (2 episodes, 2003)
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[edit] Denomination

Does it say anywhere in the show what denomination Ann's family is? It seems fairly likely that they are Lutheran or Anglican(the former probably being more likely, but this is conjecture) because George Michael has made references to her going to mass in "Meet the Veals" but in the same episode it is established that her father is a pastor, not a priest. I looked it up and it looks like Lutherans and Anglicans are the only protestant denominations in the U.S. that refer to their services as masses. 152.23.202.133 (talk) 15:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Cato

[edit] Staircar???

Since when is a car considered a "character"? I think we should move it, but i don't know where to. Anyone? --Duke33 (talk) 16:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Larry Mittleman

Just to add that the apperance of Larry is a reference of an episode of The Super Dave Osbourne Show, where he mocked James Bond in a outfit (starting at 1:13)[3] similar to the "Surrogate" outfit[4] on Arrested Development. --ShadowSlave 00:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rita Leeds

I would love to see an explanation of the following sentence: He is referring to her parents being his "cousins" in the British sense, but the line also implies Rita's parents were each other's cousins in the American sense.

As a Brit with a fair bit of time clocked up Stateside, and a good appreciation of American culture, I would expect to understand this, but I don't. As far as I'm aware, the default understanding of "cousin" is the same on both sides of the Atlantic; i.e. one of Rita's maternal grandparents would be a sibling of one of her paternal grandparents.

I'm intending to remove this sentence from the article as I don't feel it adds anything meaningful, and I suspect it is the result of misinformation/misunderstanding; at any rate it is unsourced and presumably speculative.TheSnowApe (talk) 11:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)