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[edit] List article purpose
I've started this list in order to merge numerous stub-class articles on Alien and Predator video games into a single list article. This article will be based on the structure of List of Castlevania titles. The list is under construction and currently only consists of the lead paragraphs, but I will be working on it over the next few days so please consider that before placing any tags on it. Thank you. --IllaZilla (talk) 07:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree on merging all the games except Aliens versus Predator (video game), Aliens versus Predator 2, Aliens versus Predator 2: Primal Hunt, Predator: Concrete Jungle, and Aliens versus Predator: Extinction. I think these games have enough information for a separate article. The rest are stubs, so merge. Also when you merge could also merge information about the gameplay and other stuff, like how Batman computer and video games is done. Gman124 talk 19:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that those articles don't contain any sourced commentary. They're simply long, overly detailed plot summaries and collections of screenshots. WP:V requires articles to cite reliable third-party sources to establish notability of the subject. Since they don't, I recommended merging. If at some future point someone wants to split them off into a proper article with references, that'd be fine, but most of them haven't had any significant activity in so long that it appears no one is interested in building them up at this time, so merging seems like the best cleanup effort. The Batman list is OK, and it seems it's serving a similar purpose to this list, but it uses a lot of non-free images which isn't normally permitted in list articles. I do plan on having some details about the gameplay, as you can see from the games which are currently listed in this article. There are as many details as the sources provide, but no plot summaries. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- question: Now when the artcles are merged, should their talk pages be linked from here like how I did for the two pages I put in archive? I just thought since the redirects link here, the redirects that has some talk should be treated like archives of this page. Gman124 talk 03:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Seems like a good idea to me. I don't know if there's a standard procedure for this. I see no problem in cases where the talk page didn't have anything in it (ie. just wikiproject banners or whatever, no actual discussion). For cases where there is some content on the talk page, I think your solution works fine. I might tweak it a bit as the list article develops, but I think it's a good idea. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Commnet Shouldn't attempts be made to improve the articles first? I must admit that is what I thought a project was for - identifying articles that needed work and bringing the full attention of knowledgeable folks to bear on them. Looking through them few have even been tagged with requests for sources, notability, etc. I would have thought a to do list (as there is on the [Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics Comic Project talk page]) which would let people know what is in need of further work. This kind of merge should be a last resort.
- Equally there are ongoing merges already up for some of these like Predator (video game) - you have to resolve one merge before throwing in more - if the decision was to merge into that article you'd need to give it time to settle down before even thinking about merging it again into something else.
- So basically keep until efforts have been made to improve what is there. Then look into merging in smaller chunks - the sheer number of articles proposed is daunting and means a considered and nuanced approach is difficult. (Emperor (talk) 17:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
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- Most of the articles in question have been tagged as stubs by various projects (video games project mostly) for a long time (a year, 18 months, or more in many cases) and yet no improvements have been made to them. Many have been tagged as unreferenced for just as long. The majority of them are nothing but plot summaries and galleries of copyrighted screenshots. It's highly doubtful that any of them could be expanded with encyclopedic content and third-party critical sources. However, the details about their release history, specifications, etc. can be nicely merged into this article. I proposed the merging of these articles here in March. Given the lack of activity on most of these articles despite the tags, I see little reason not to merge them into a suitable list article. For example, the last subsantial edit to Predator (video game) (ie. not a minor edit or adding of a tag) was over a year ago. --IllaZilla (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
