Talk:List of A Christmas Carol adaptations
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[edit] Merging Carrey project
Per notability guidelines for films, it is not appropriate for A Christmas Carol (2009 film) to exist. The criteria for an article of an upcoming film is that if the film's production is notable, but the film has only been announced and does not show any sign of being fast-tracked to production. The article clearly reflects that Jim Carrey has other potential projects to pursue, so there is no evidence that this film will be made. Thus, it may otherwise be a perpetual stub, so per WP:SS, what little content exists about the film should be merged to List of A Christmas Carol adaptations. My recommendation is a subsection under the Film section. When production is immediate, with an established cast (beyond Carrey) and a production start date in place, then the content can be spun off to the film article once more. There is relevant discussion located at the link below the section heading above. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Support - As I stated on the other page, nothing says if or when this movie will ever get made. Jim Carrey has a slew of films on his plate right now, and it has often been cited that even he has not chosen his next film. Ripley's Believe It or Not has been sitting around for years. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 20:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Support - unshot films should remain sections of other articles prior to production. Girolamo Savonarola 01:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - I'm not opposed to the merge, since once the film begins shooting it'll be easy to retrieve all previously written material. However, shooting seems to be an arbitrary start point at which to create an article. Those guidelines appear to be very much in dispute at the moment, we should wait until there's a stable version before acting. -- MisterHand (Talk to the Hand|Contribs) 16:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
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- As the guideline stands, it still applies to merging this film, on which production has yet to begin, and the proposal on the guideline's talk page will still apply to merging this film. There's no argument being pursued to support the creation of an article right when a film is announced. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:47, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- Comment: According to Variety, Carrey will pursue Yes Man first. The article also says that he would begin A Christmas Carol in early 2008. Since this project is far off, it's more reason to avoid a stand-alone film article at this time. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pastiche vs. Sequel
I adjusted the header of the last section for accuracy. In strict literary terms, a sequel can be written only by the original author or his/her formal designee. Other works using characters from and with plot line allusions to earlier works of note are more properly called by the term pastiche.
One of the most fertile original characters for pastiche has been Sherlock Holmes, with scores of stories and a number of novels using the characters but neither written nor authorized by Conan Doyle (Nicholas Meyer's The Seven-Per-Cent Solution being arguably the best-known and most popular). No one refers to these as "sequels" - they are always termed pastiche.
Ditto Tom Stoppard's Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead - a pastiche in both senses of the word identified in Wiki's article about the same.
I'm leaving the term "sequel" in as part of the header against my instincts and better judgment because of the probable unfamiliarity of many readers with the term pastiche.
