User talk:Lionheart Omega

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Lionheart Omega, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  karmafist 17:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Historical persecution by Christians

Hello...I removed material not because I did or did not "like it", but rather because it contained no actual examples of persecution. The section listed a few examples of laws which might lead to persecution, but then admitted that the laws remained completely unenforced. It included statements by politicians, which didn't seem too friendly toward atheism, but didn't include any examples of actual persecution. It also included a quote from a completely non-notable Christian who in no way speaks for Christians or any denomination. In short, there wasn't any actual persecution listed. Now, there are certainly examples, and I urge editors to make those appropriate changes. But there was nothing listed. Thanks...KHM03 01:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Lionheart Omega 01:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Current discrimination -- might be worth a try, if it's cited properly and written well. But discrimination is not persecution. So don't be surprised if the material gets deleted. After all, there's a lot of discrimination against Christians, too. KHM03 01:20, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dennis

The source is almost certainly the TCR. What's needed is more inline {{ref}} calls so that it's clear what bit of info comes from what source. The problem is non-US damage only gets very imprecise estimates in the TCRs; the totals are probably $2B in the US and $2-4B in Cuba or thereabouts. Jdorje 02:09, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Costliest Atlantic hurricanes

The problem with a {{Costliest Atlantic hurricanes}} is that the sources are very poor. For instance Hurricane Fifi claims $20B in damages but gives no source. This is discussed at List of notable Atlantic hurricanes. Jdorje 03:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. Jdorje 03:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Huh? Help how? — jdorje (talk) 02:58, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

That's why you have to go to the sources. Hopefully (but unlikely) all those numbers will have sources given for them. If not you have to find them. The main and by far the most official source is the TCR. — jdorje (talk) 03:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
That Frances source isn't much of a source. It's just a newsletter run by one guy... — jdorje (talk) 01:15, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Precision

You can't apply inflation to 10 and get 15.587. You have to round off to get 16 (or maybe, 15.6). However, you need to be very careful when updating the costs of hurricanes and add a source for any changes you make. Lots of sources give costs but they're only talking about U.S. damage. Jdorje 00:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

When you change the damage, please add sources! It's not enough just to say where the data came from in your change message. Add a link to the article as well! Jdorje 05:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wilma

Nobody knows for sure since there are no "official" estimates for damages in mexico. Gilbert supposedly caused $5b in damages, most of which was probably in mexico. But we can never be certain which is why the text should say "possibly the costliest hurricane in mexican history" and give a source for that. — jdorje (talk) 23:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: new tc articles

No, for the most part we do not need these articles. A few users have been adding new articles like crazy, generally of fairly low quality and low notability. A few other users have been regularly merging them back into the season articles. I myself am fairly neutral in the process but I tend to agree with the mergers. It would be much better if people who wanted to make a new storm article would isntead start off by extending the storm's section in the season article. Unfortunately the creators of the new articles refuse to do so, and generally also refuse to participate in the wikiproject discussion about new articles. The whole process is extremely wasteful. — jdorje (talk) 22:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Damage

Just a quick note, when you update damage totals to 2005 USD, would it be possible to also include the un-inflated damage total? This allows for easy double checking and updating through the years. Good work for those where you did that. Hurricanehink 05:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee

Lionheart Omega, I can see from your userboxes that you love cats.

Would you be interested in joining the Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee?

If you want to join, you can add yourself to the members list and contact the committee founder, me, GeorgeMoney on my talk page.

Thank You. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 22:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thank you

It is good to see that even some honest Amerikans like yourself support Serbs.Thank you very much for thatDzoni 02:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Aspergian Wikipedians

Category:Aspergian Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. The is also a proposal to create an association to meet the needs of users with mental health conditions. --Salix alba (talk) 18:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article formatting

Dear Tropical cyclone editor,

As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.

  1. Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
  2. Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
  3. Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexible, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
  4. Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
  5. Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
  6. Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
  7. Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
  8. Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.

Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.

Hurricanehink (talk) 19:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #1

Number 1, June 4, 2006

The Hurricane Herald

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Storm of the month

Typhoon Chanchu near its peak intensity
Typhoon Chanchu was the first typhoon and first super typhoon of the 2006 Pacific typhoon season. Forming on May 9 over the open western Pacific Ocean, Chanchu moved over the Philippines on the 11th. There, it dropped heavy rainfall, causing mudslides, crop damage, and 41 deaths. It moved into the South China Sea, where it rapidly strengthened to a super typhoon on May 14, one of only two super typhoons recorded in the sea. It turned to the north, weakened, and struck the Fujian province of China as a minimal typhoon on the 17th. The typhoon flooded 192 houses, while heavy rainfall caused deadly mudslides. In China, Chanchu caused at least 25 deaths and $480 million in damage (2006 USD). Elsewhere on its path, strong waves from the typhoon sank eleven Vietnamese ships, killing at least 44 people. In Taiwan, heavy rainfall killed two people, while in Japan, severe waves killed one person and injured another.

Other tropical cyclone activity

New articles and improvements wanted

Member of the month

This isn't the generic barnstar, we just don't have a WPTC star yet…

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Storm article statistics

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Featured article FA 7 7 10
A 4 5 7
Good article GA 0 3 5
B 62 66 82
Start 154 177 168
Stub 13 12 10
Total 240 263 282
percentage
≥Less than B		 69.6 71.6 63.1

The assessment scale

  • The cyclone assessment scale is one of the bases of the new assessment scale for Version 1.0 of Wikipedia. It splits articles into several categories by quality, to identify which articles are "finished" and which ones still need to be improved.
  • The assessment scale by itself counts of several grades:
    • FA: reserved for articles that have been identified as featured content only.
    • A: this grade is given to articles that are considered ready for Wikipedia:peer review. The way to get this grade assigned to an article is by asking other cyclone editors at the WikiProject's assessment page.
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  • The way to use these assessments is by adding a parameter to the WikiProject template on the articles talk page ({{hurricane|class=B}} as an example). This feeds the article into a category which is read and parsed to create an assessment table, summary and log.

[edit] Re: Damage from Hurricanes

Yep, we're always glad to see some new faces. Looking at Delta, that's amazing that the storm caused as much damage as it did. I'm a little confused though about the GDP. How was Wilma 2% of the GDP if Katrina was only .5%? Is the 2% from Mexico, just Florida, or Cuba? Also, I'm a little confused how Delta could have caused up to $750 million in damage (2005 USD). The article only says 300 million Euros. About Katrina, stuff like that should be mentioned wherever. People are too quick to think hurricanes only kill people and destroy houses, but they can do a lot to the environment. If you have a source for that, you should add that into the article. Just curious, what do you see yourself doing here in the future? Hurricanehink (talk) 19:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Well, we should probably assume it is total damages, as we don't know for sure. I'm not sure how you got Wilma's $1.2 billion damage total for Wilma. Do you have a source? If so, you should add it into the article, as it's currently missing. The reason we probably couldn't get Maria's damage info is because it wasn't Hurricane Maria that did the damage. It was the extratropical storm that Maria merged with. That is why I would guess there's no damage total. Delta moved through the Canary Islands just after becoming extratropical, while Maria's damage wasn't directly from the original storm. As for the death, no idea, but it was probably unsourced. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:34, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure, as it's very ambiguous. However, the statement is unsourced, so it should be removed, rather than mentioned elsewhere. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Alberto

Not sure. If it did cause a death, I'm sure some news agencies will say that later on. Hurricanehink (talk) 11:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

Please use spaces and punctuation. Your recent edits are below the standard of an encyclopedia. Also, for Hurricane Michelle, please arrange Florida by chronological order affected, and not just stick it into the infobox somewhere. NSLE 02:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Cheers, and sorry if that was a bit harsh. BTW, Hurricane Iris's inflation as well needs punctuation. NSLE 02:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Katrina recovery in Pascagoula

Inline sourcing is easy. At the every source you have, do something like this. <ref name="name">{{cite web|author=Person/Organization|year=Year|title=Whatever the Title is|accessdate=Whatever date you put it in (2006-06-22)|url=www.whatever.com}}</ref> I hope that made a little sense. Just add in everything. It's pretty easy. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #2

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[edit] Re: 1999

I guess images could be added. --Hurricanehink (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that site is not in the public domain. You have to find images of the storms from a .gov site, or one that says it's from a government agency. Actually, they might qualify as PD because they're works of the GOES satellite imagery, but just to be safe, you should find some .gov images. A very good image site for TC's around the world is the Global ISCCP B1 Browse System, which has worldwide satellite imagery from 1983 to 2006. Simply pick the day and find the storm. Here is how you upload it.
  • First, you should probably crop the image if it's from the above link. To do that, right click, and choose paste. Go into paint on your computer, and cut out the storm.
  • Save it as something relavent to the image, but something that's not in use. You could do, "Tropical Depression Seven (1999)"
  • On Wikipedia, look on the left-hand side for the link that says "Upload file". It should be under toolbox. Click that.
  • Because it's public domain, you should upload it to the Wikipedia commons, so you should follow the link to the Wikipedia commons page mid-way through the upload screen.
  • When you get to the commons, you'll have to have an account. It's the same as having an account here.
  • Once you have an account, click upload file.
  • On the upload file screen on Wikimedia commons, click browse and find the image you saved to your computer.
  • Copy and paste the information table that's to the top left into the summary, and fill in the information. For example, {{Information |Description=Image of Tropical Depression Seven in September of 1999 |Source=The file link you found it at |Date=2006-07-04 |Author=GOES-7 Satellite |Permission={{PD-USGov-NOAA}} |other_versions= }}
  • Add some categories there, too. The categories go by location (TD 7 (1999)), strength (TD 7 (1999)), season (TD 7), and if it was retired (it would be Floyd, but only if it was retired).

Does that make sense? --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


Great job! I personally think all of the other TD's should be mentioned. Just to let you know, I already uploaded TD 2 in the 2003 season, though the rest are still needed. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Good job with 2003. 2002 should be easy, as it only had 2 undeveloped depressions. Also, thanks for the happy bday message :) Hurricanehink (talk) 03:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Very interesting. Imagine if that was over open waters for another few days, that thing would have been a monster due to its size. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hey!

Thanks. I just find it easiest being nice to others. I don't know much about Scientology, but I wouldn't say anything. Making fun of others for their religion on Wikipedia could possibly get you blocked. I'd just leave it alone. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Nothing short of a miracle

An Epsilon type storm is pretty rare. Epsilon at least had the advantage of relatively warm waters with a lot of room. It would require a Mesoconvective type storm to develop in the Great Lakes. Those types of storms rarely develop in the Gulf of Mexico, so forming in the Great Lakes would be an even greater feat. Plus, it would require weak steering currents to keep it over the area, let's say Lake Huron. It is very unlikely to have convection develop at that latitude and remain there for days, mainly due to the fact that cold fronts always move through the area. A frontal low is theoretically possible, but it takes time for tropical cyclones to get a warm core and lose its frontal character. The Huroncane is a very unusual example, and I'm very surprised it even happened. Of course, stranger things have happened. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The first thing to remember is that a Mediterranean Tropical Cyclone hasn't yet been confirmed. Thus, tropical cyclone-like systems in the Mediterranean could really be polar lows, which can form in cold waters. On the other hand, tropical-like systems in the Mediterranean in August through early October could, possibly, be tropical cyclones. The southern Mediterranean is at about the same latitude of North Carolina, and in the summer water temps can get into the high 70's. Subtropical storms don't follow the rules too well, and could form in the Mediterranean, I suppose, but there's too little research to make a statement about them. I don't know, the Med. Sea needs some more serious research done, as I am absolutely convinced that there has been at least one tropical cyclone there in the last 10 years, and probably one hurricane as well. --Hurricanehink (talk) 14:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Long Island Sound Plane Crash

Help!, other useres are trying to delete my article but I objected saying that the plane crash is notable. Please vote keep on the vote page in order to save this article.Storm05 13:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] AHEM

I noticed you are in with hink's crowd... What city are you from in FLA and will you answer my other question that you deleted. act32701@hotmail.com BTW, we'll cross paths in this hurricane stuff againO-TOWN'S AT 23:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #3

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[edit] Re: Hurricane mini-boxes

Good work with them. Rather than going ahead to 1994 (which isn't that disorganized), you should fill in the storm summaries. It's a little tedious, yes, but it's a little annoying to see a lot of white space due to the template. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Contributions

There used to be a tool, though now you can use my contributions, switch to 500 per page, and count how many pages of 500 there are. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia's LGBT Community

Hi, Lionheart Omega!
You've indicated through various means (a userbox, membership in a category, etc) that you are part of the Wikipedia LGBT community, or are interested in Wikipedia's LGBT related pages. Welcome!

You may not know that Wikipedia has both an LGBT Notice Board and an LGBT Studies WikiProject. If you haven't yet done so, take a look at both of them. They sorely need attention and participation!

Some things on the "To-Do List" that merit particular attention include:

  1. Identifying topics/pages that need attention
  2. Identifying problems that need addressing
  1. Adding the LGBT Template to appropriate pages
  2. Categorizing LGBT pages

Please feel free to participate in any or all of these activities! And if you feel like it, add yourself to either the Noticeboard Members or the WikiProject Participants - or both!
Glad you're a part of Wikipedia - and Thanks! This invitation posted here by SatyrTN -- talk
Please remove it if you so desire.

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #4

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[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #5

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[edit] Re: 2005 AHS

I don't think you can upload the actual spreadsheet, but you could post the information at a relavent place. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

It's excel, right? Just highlight the cells you want to copy, click copy, and click paste at the appropriate place. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response to your question re: Katrina Death Toll

User talk:AdamWeeden#Katrina_Death_Toll

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #6

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[edit] Welcome back

Hey, welcome back. Long time no see. Heh, there's too much still to be done. Here's a few suggestions, though it all depends on what type of article, which basin, and what time period you prefer. What about redoing/expanding Typhoon Paka? That article is a stub, but a fairly important one that has plenty of info out there. If you want something from the Atlantic, what about redoing/expanding Tropical Storm Alberto (2006), Hurricane Gabrielle (2001), or Hurricane Bret (1999)? Or, if you want to create a new Atlantic article, Tropical Storm Hermine (1998) is the most recent storm to hit the United States without an article, so there's probably some good info. If you're looking for something bigger, Hurricane Lenny or Hurricane Fran might be good. Something I've been doing lately is daughter articles of storm articles by effects, such as Effects of Hurricane Isabel in North Carolina. I don't know what sort of stuff you like to do, but they're not too bad for recent storms; maybe Effects of Hurricane Jeanne in North Carolina or a different hurricane's effects in your home state. There are some meteorological articles that are desperately needed, such as outflow or banding feature, which both probably have tons of info. I don't know, what did you have in mind? If you want to work on something, but are worried about obtaining links, let me know. I'll find you plenty of useful information. It's good to have you back, and I look forward to your future contributions. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Pretty much all of the above still applies. Not too much has been going on as of late. What sort of stuff are you looking to do? Hurricanehink (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPTC Active Members

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones has changed greatly since it was first started, and according to our main page we now have 87 members. However, we only have a small group of members that are still active, and as such, I am sending this out to all users on the participants list. If you are still active, please sign your name here. If you do not wish to be part of the project any more, or if you do not answer to this, you will be placed on an inactive users list after a period of two weeks. If you wish to rejoin after you are put on the inactive users list, you are welcome to rejoin. Cheers. --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)