Talk:Lineage (Buddhism)

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[edit] Lineage in non-Zen/Chan schools

The concept of lineage is important for non-Zen schools of Buddhism and, although there are conceptual similarities, there are of course also disparities, some of which are distinctive for certain schools.

I'm most familiar with the concept of lineage in the Nichiren Shoshu school and know of its existence in Tiantai/Lotus groupings as well. I'd like to write about it, but am not sure whether to change the existings "Lineage (Buddhism)" article to accommodate non-Zen viewpoints, or whether to change its name to "Lineage (Chan/Zen Buddhism)" and start another, new article titled "Lineage (Lotus-school Buddhism)" or something to that effect.

If you've got any advice or opinions on this, I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks Jim_Lockhart 09:27, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Interesting idea. I suppose the question is, how different are the two ideas? I'm inclined to say we might as well keep them together in the same article, unless they are so dissimilar as to have nothing in common. - Nat Krause 10:01, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Too late! I suppose I should have read the discussion before posting a contribution. I'm not familiar with NS ideas about lineage, but monastic ordination lineages and vajrayana teaching lineages are pretty-well described by the original Zen/Chan-oriented text. Perhaps it might add balance if there were some discussion of some other specific lineage claims, other than those of Zen/Chan?

--MrDemeanour 18:46, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Who is the true dharma heir of the lineage of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche? Trungpa officially designated an American Hindu, Thomas Rich, (Osel Tendzin) to help the Tibetan teachings become part of Western Buddhism. The trouble is that Rich died 10 years or so later. This title was assumed by another person after his death. Who is the true teacher of Trungpa's lineage?

The Sakyong Mipham Rimpoche is "the dharma heir" of Trungpa Rimpoche, and the "head" of the Shambhala lineage. Trungpa was the holder of several teaching lineages, and probably more than one person now holds these lineages. HTH, --MrDemeanour 10:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Lineage is important in Tibetan Buddhism, it's not just a Zen thing. Secretlondon 00:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Patriarch (Buddhism) and Lineage (Buddhism)

Any objections to the merge? --Knverma 08:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Merged. --Knverma 11:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)