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Contents 1 John's spelling corrections 2 Merge with Borders article 2.1 Disagree with merge 3 Limes vs Limen

[edit] John's spelling corrections

Hello John, thanks very much for fixing my spelling errors. Nice catch. As a sort of aside, you also fixed the Latin as though it were English, which is not a correction. The plural of limes is limites. The stem is limit- in Latin rather than in English. The Romans would have used the plural there. In English we never translate limes as limit but always as frontier or boundary, unless it meant path. The Romans did not have any LIM and certainly no boundary theory. It is a matter of usage. We use it one way, they used it another. Same word. I realize I should have put the Latin in Italics so you could be clear on it. I've gone through there and fixed some of your fixes. Thanks for the spelling check.Dave 17:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Borders article

I just discovered both articles today, but this seems like a logical move. The Borders article needs some cleanup, and it would be vastly improved by the inclusion of the content here. Dppowell 20:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I think that both articles (limes and borders) deal with different topics. Limes is related to a "line of defense" used by the Romans to protect their empire from outsiders (in a similar way to the famous China Wall), while borders is related to the "areas" at the limits of the Roman Empire. So "borders" deals with the regions (with related people, history, geography, etc..)near the "limes" (that is related to fortifications,terrain defenses, "fossatum", etc..): two totally different arguments, even if connected. --Brunodam 14:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree with merge

The Limes were a system of border defense, and weren't implemented along the entire length of te borders. It is a separate concept. The articles should mutually link, but not be merged - PocklingtonDan 21:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I also disgree with the merge. The concepts are different. The connotations and flavour are also different. --Boson 23:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I also disagree. Limes were an element of the Roman border, and should be mentioned and linked, but they were not the only one nor were they universally used. In addition, this article covers rich etymological detail of the word itself that would be out of place in the Roman borders article. Plynn9 16:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Seeing as there are 4 disagrees, as I'd be the fifth disagree, would there be any dispute to removing the merge tag? If people change their minds or new supporters are found, it can always be put back. SnowFire 20:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Limes vs Limen

If you are going to distinguish limes from limen, then you should not claim that eliminate is derived of limes. The form clearly comes from the genitive stem of limen: limin(is). 66.75.246.15 23:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC) (T. Gnaevus Faber @ la.wiki)