Talk:Like Water for Chocolate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mexico, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Mexico on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. |
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article. |
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale. |
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to narrative novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions. | ||
| Stub | This article has been rated as Stub-Class. | ||
| Mid | This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale. | ||
 |
This article needs an infobox template! - see Novels InfoboxCode or Short Story InfoboxCode for a pattern | ||
|
Assessment comments
|
|||
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. | ||||||||
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-class on the quality scale. | ||||||||
| Low | This article has been rated as low-importance on the importance scale. |
||||||||
|
|||||||||
Contents |
[edit] Rosaura? Villain or Victim?
- I was discussing something the other day, having watched the movie for the umpteenth time with my mother. While there's no doubt that Rosaura could be um...shall we say.....difficult... I began to see her somewhat sympathetically. What if she was in love with Pedro?
- What if she had a childhood love of him as well as Tita, only she was never noticed because he had met Tita first? Imagine that you have a youngest sister who is seemingly better than you in every aspect, with your only way of beating her being that she can't marry? Then when you get to marry the guy you've been dreaming of, only to discover that he isn't even giving you the chance to love you, instead holding your sister up to an ideal that even she'd never fulfill. I don't think Rosaura really wanted to act as nasty as she did in the story. Also, you have a baby girl, the only thing you have left -since your "husband" obviously never wants to touch you again, since you can't have children. What better way to try to keep something for yourself for once than to use the old family tradition? If your re-read or re-watch the movie, you'll see that everything that Rosaura had Tita took from her, both by accident and on purpose. If Tita was a victim of her family, then Rosaura is as well. She had no choice but to doom herself and marry Pedro, while Tita could easily have run away with Pedro at any point in the story. Also, none of the characters ever try to actually help Rosaura at any time. Even when Tita gives her the herbs to help her breath, and the special diet, you can tell that she really doesn't want Rosaura to have Pedro. Even the mother of the book had experienced love, even though it was ill-fated.
- Rosaura got the short end of the stick. She had an arranged marraige to a man who didn't love her, 2 sisters who didn't care that she was unhappily married (one of which actually encourages the other to lead said husband into infidelity), even mothership of her children was denied as Magical Tita somehow manages to take that as well. At the end of the book she has not experienced any joy in her life, while her sisters both enjoy happy lives (although with some sadness) as well as freedom from their mother. At one point I was actually hoping that Rosaura would free herself and run away to find her own happiness. I love the book, but after my mother & I debated the ill-fated eldest sister, it's going to be hard to see Tita as the one who suffered the most. Tita had the ability to have joy, and to light her matches/candles. Rosaura never got to light even one. ---Tokyogirl79 (talk)
[edit] Re: Rousara villian or victim?
[edit] Rousara villian or victim?
Rousara represents Mother Elena's ideas and traditions, as in novels which use Magical Realism, time is cyclical, Tita cannot have children or be married because she has to take care of Mama Elena, Rosauras daughter, being the last of her daughters, by family tradition, would not be able to marry or have children either, this would lead to the end of the family, and was a selfish tradition any way, Rousara's insitance that it be continued in my judgement, makes her the villian, as she made that choice. However, as we can see, her character lends itself to many interpretations, as does many pieces of literature, we should let this judgement be debated and not give a difinite answer on the padge itself, but put it as a controversy, like the "Antigone"-who is the tragic hero debate.
Zor0 05:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Likewaterforchocolate.PNG
Image:Likewaterforchocolate.PNG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 03:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article split?
The lede is about the novel, the infobox is a film infobox; shouldn't this article be split into separate ones for the novel and the film as is The Color Purple (The Color Purple (film), The Color Purple (musical))? It would make it easier to feel more comfortable adding things like Category:Films about cooking to the article. AUTiger ยป talk 01:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
