Talk:Ligier

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[edit] Elf

I remove Elf because wasn't a major partner of Ligier because Elf was a major partner of Renault so the firm didn't support Ligier when Ligier was powered by Renault competitors engines and when Elf or it's subsidiary Antar sponsored ligier it was always the second or the third bugdet in Ligier sponsors. It's also clear than Elf management was reluctant to support Ligier because of lack of results and was more interrested when Renault wasn't in competition to support a competitive British team.

Ericd

Eric, you should put that (what you just said) into the article. It is a valid part of Ligier's history, and interesting. Tannin

2 reasons :

- my English is somewhat limited I don't how to insert it in the article for now.

- this can be included in a more extensive chronology and I have to search some sources because Ligier history is very complicated.

Ericd

Fair enough. http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/con-ligie.html might help if you haven't found it already. But don't worry too much about your English. That's the great thing about Wikipedia: I write a bad sentence, someone comes along and fixes it up inside a day or two. I love it! Tannin

PS: If you want, just write it here in talk, and pop a note on my user:talk page. I'm not going to research anything for this (I'm only a little interested in F1) but I'm always happy to copy edit.

Thanks. Ligier history is interresting in that it has a lot of connections with political and industrial history in France. Ericd

[edit] split off F1

The F1 team should be split from the carmaker. None of the other F1 teams have such a weird merged article. The association between the two units was severed before Ligier disappeared from F1. 70.51.8.110 (talk) 08:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably a good idea - See Ferrari and Alfa Romeo for suitable models. 4u1e (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree. The current microcar-producer Ligier has little to do with the F1 team, and it would make more sense to have separate articles. El monty (talk) 10:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If the article is split, can I request that the F1 part gets to keep the name "Ligier" and the roadcar part gets the new name (e.g. "Ligier (automobile)" or something like that), since the vast majority of existing links to Ligier are F1-related. DH85868993 (talk) 11:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)