User talk:Lidingo

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[edit] AfD nomination of Henrik Kreüger

An article that you have been involved in editing, Henrik Kreüger, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henrik Kreüger. Thank you. --BJBot (talk) 18:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kreuger & Toll

It seems likely that the article on Henrik Kreüger will survive the "AfD nomination" that somebody made (section above), but you can probably improve the sourcing. I fixed the title of Nationalencyklopedin (it only has a Swedish title, and to find it in a library, that is what one needs to use) and added a link to the article in Nordisk familjebok that somebody linked in the discussion. In addition to those, there is a fuller article on Henrik Kreüger in Svenskt biografiskt lexikon (see this index of articles), which you can find in every major Swedish library (like in the Stockholm University Library or the Stockholm City Library or Kungliga biblioteket, or most probably in the municipal library of Lidingö, if that is where you live).

I would also suggest that you improve the sourcing of the article on Paul Toll. It now only cites a "private book" by Magnus Toll. I can not find that book in LIBRIS, which makes it difficult to verify for other people than those private individuals who possess a copy. But with all the stuff written on Ivar Kreuger and Kreuger & Toll that is available in Swedish libraries, I imagine that it should be possible to verify and improve the article from other sources. The reasons why people nominate particular articles to be deleted is still mostly a mystery to me, but using a privately published book that is unavailable to most people even in Sweden is likely, sooner or later, to provoke someone to nominate this page at the "Articles for Deletion" page, as happened with Henrik Kreüger. Look particularly at the work of respected Swedish historians like Jan Glete (professor of history at Stockholm University), who has written a few things on Ivar Kreuger and his business.

Keep up the good work! Olaus (talk) 11:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

There is very few relevant articles in "modern time" about Henrik Kreüger but a short summary you can find in the Nationalencyklopedin. That's my main source for the article. The other two sources is from the book refererenced in the article about Ivar Kreuger (his cousin) and the private book about Paul Toll. From these three sources I have made a "police-work" reading over and over again and actually have come up with information that no one so far has been able to present. I even got the publisher of Nationalencyklopedin (the main Swedish national encyclopedia) to actually change one sentence in the web-based encyclopedia that was obvioulsy wrong (which I am very proud of of course). The private book about Paul Toll is acually out on the second hand market but was never published by a company (no ISBN-no available). I bought it and read the whole story which gave me a lot of interesting facts also about Ivar Kreuger that has not been published before. One important fact is that without Henrik Kreüger, Ivar Kreuger probably would not have started in the contruction business at all and it was Henrik that arranged so that Ivar changed his education on KTH (Institute of technology Stockholm) after a while from Mechanical to Civil engineering. Henrik Kreüger was the man behind the success of Kreuger & Toll Construction Co. as the main engineer, calculations etc. the first years that created the base for Ivars Kreugers corporation. Therefore Henrik Kreüger must have an article on the Wikipedia. I will try to fix the references. Magnus Toll was the son of Paul Toll. Magnus Toll:s son published the picture that is included in both articles Ivar Kreuger and Paul Toll and what is told in the Toll-book is most likely very true. Happy New Year to you all! Lidingo SWE (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ivar Kreuger

Hi!

Thank you for trying to improve/fix the Ivar Kreuger article, it's a mess right and has unfortunately very little to do with facts. I'm trying to talk some sense with Kraxler, who seem to have a very strong opinion of one side of the story - the same story that people have been fed with since 1932. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargamelik (talk • contribs) 05:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)