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[edit] Production

Why is the production section of the entry blank? I just stumbled upon this, and I don't know anything about James Bond, so could someone please fix that? Thanks!


[edit] Filming locations

There's a note here saying that LTK is the only Bond not filmed at Pinewood. I know that only the special effects for Moonraker were shot at Pinewood (the main studios for that film were in France) so that's OK, but I thought that the studio work for Tomorrow Never Dies was all in Mexico in the same studio where Titanic was filmed? 23skidoo 23:31, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

No, the stealth boat sequences were filmed at Pinewood. It specifically states this in the DVD-insert for TND (stating also the same location as TSWLM). The film credits (see credits -> James Bond will return) also credit Pinewood. Pinewoods website also lists TND as being filmed there as well. K1Bond007 00:09, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eh?

Maybe someone could re-phrase this as I'm not sure what its trying to say:

"It has been reported that there was confusion with the British spelling of "Licence", which in American English is spelt "License". It is possible that due to this confusion that the film was retitled in the United States with the British english, "Licence to Kill", although some U.S. television networks display the title with its theatrical title."

I tried to clean that up a little. I don't know if I improved it. Essentially the film was released "License to Kill" in the theaters in the US. When it was released to VHS/DVD it had the British spelling "Licence to Kill", yet when it airs on television sometimes it's listed as "License to Kill". A lot of books allude to the spelling of "Licence" as a problem, although IMHO that seems as goofy as the whole "Americans don't understand what revoked means" arguement. K1Bond007 16:38, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry - I'm afraid that's incorrect. The film was released theatrically in both the UK and USA as "Licence to Kill". For a reference, please see The Incredible World of 007 by Lee Pfiefer and Philip Lisa, 1995. Indeed even the American theatrical poster on this wiki page contains the spelling, "Licence". PeteSmyth 22:13, 21 March, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Della and Tracy

I brought this up as a revision to the main article, but perhaps it fits better here. The significance I attach to Bond's discovery of the late Della Leiter is in the memories this would dredge up for Bond. Earlier that same day, Bond pointedly refused Della's garter and the "next to be married" significance; after all this time, he's still uncomfortable dealing with the memory of Tracy and his marriage. Then, when he returns to the Leiters' house after learning of Sanchez's escape, Bond finds himself once again holding a dead bride on her wedding day. You can see in his eyes and in his reactions that - beyond being the death of a friend - it's triggering a bad memory for him.

Which is possibly true, I admit you have a good case (and this may be a notable point in the novelisation), but you may also be reading into the situation a little too much from the film's angle - I see that correlation as a little subjective. K1Bond007 04:44, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
Makes perfect sense, from my point of view, though. Jalabi99 14:25, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The novelisation

I recently noted in an edit summary that the note left on Leiter "He disagreed with something that ate him" was not in the novelisation. I believe this to be the case, however, it is somewhat ambiguous as to whether it's actually there or not—a second time.

"He followed the trail of blood up the stairs, and experienced a number horrifying sensations: Felix's gloved false hand on his own arm; the man's laugh; memories of a girl called Solitaire, the scent she used — Vent Vert — and the sick message Leiter's torturers had left. He disagreed with something that ate him. Strangest of all his taste buds brought back the flavour of Key lime pie which he had eaten during the wedding reception. Was it only yesterday?"

So in this paragraph he's having flashbacks of Solitaire and whatever from years ago and the next Key lime pie he had only yesterday all tied in with what was happening at that moment. What is it with Bond, sharks, and ambiguous statments (see: Jaws)? I suppose, since I've yet to actually finish reading the book that this is later mentioned - though I'm not so sure. K1Bond007 07:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I have read somewhere that Gardner tried to reconcile the LtK events with LALD, and this is probably how he did it. The reader could possibly accept that history could repeat itself and Leiter would suffer a second attack, but for the torturers to use the same sick joke as Mr Big used would probably have been too much for suspension of disbelief, so Gardner wrote around this, yet at the same time someone unfamiliar with LALD wouldn't miss out on one of LtK's more powerful moments. 23skidoo 14:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hemmingway House

Why does the Hemmingway House link point to Hemmingway's book Farewell to Arms? It doesn't appear to make any sense to me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.229.120.184 (talk • contribs) .

Changed it to Ernest Hemingway. I don't think anyone is going to make an article on the actual house. Maybe. Regardless, the house is mentioned in that article. K1Bond007 19:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do not split the article

I oppose splitting the article into separate film and novel articles. I don't see any benefit for this. 23skidoo 13:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

No need to split the article. It may be long, but all other Bond film pages have an equally detailed and long articles on their film's soundtrack.

[edit] Trivia

I took out the trivia about Bond not wearing a necktie because He wears one in in the first scene he's in during the wedding.

I'm new to this so didn't want to edit it directly, this is incorrect/misleading. Del Torro isn't the second Academy Award winnning actor to play a bond villain, as he didn't win his oscar until several years after he played a bond villain. Walken won his oscar in '79 and then went on to play a bond villain so he was at the time of A View to A Kill and oscar winner.

Where the hell did the trivia section go? I mean it was there one day then the next it's gone! (Callum J. Stewart 16:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Direct use of Fleming concepts

Paragraph 2 of the article says:

"This would be the last James Bond film to make direct use of Ian Fleming's concepts and characters until Casino Royale (2006)."

"Die Another Day" used a few concepts from the Fleming novel "Moonraker" (at least as many as "Licence to Kill"). Should this be noted? --Fightingirish 14:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think it should. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.159.59.99 (talk) 22:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Apparently some jackass took it apon himself (or herself) to remove the trivia section from ALL Bond articles. I say they should be put pack. 142.68.197.58 22:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Box office performance

I've often heard it said that LTK's problems were in the US market, not internationally, and from what I can see the inflation adjusted figures are for the US box office only, when something like 78% of takings were worldwide. Does anyone have access to statistics with a clearer global picture? Timrollpickering 00:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I've tweaked the phrasing (although it remains U.S.-centric). The film was actually quite successful outside the U.S. I wonder if there are other factors for the poor U.S. box office besides those mentioned; the film did not take place in places that were particularly exotic to the American market (Key West and Mexico/Panama), and Bond drove a Lincoln Mark VII, an aging and not very exciting model in 1989, etc. ProhibitOnions (T) 13:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Hildebrand Rarity

Wasn't used in the movie it self, the only things that where taken from Hildebrand where Milton Krest and WaveKrest.

[edit] Filming Location in Mexico

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a haunted spot in Mexico, right? 1 mention was a truck mysteriously bursting into flams 2nd mention was a "hand" appearing during an explosion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.212.159.126 (talk) 23:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

No, you're not wrong. This story is covered in the documentary on the special (and Ultimate) editions of the Dvd. Apparently, a car carrying nuns went of the road and for many years after, the exact site of the accident has thrown up several unexplained episodes, including the "hand". --Olaf Legend 16:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Truck ski stunt

Hi:

There's a scene at the end of the film where a tractor-trailer tanker does a 'ski'. I believe this is the word used to describe the one side of the vehicle in the air. I thought I read somewhere that stunt was a record breaker. I don't know whether it was the length of the trick driving or the fact that it was even accomplished at all.

Anyway, someone with more knowledge of the matter than I can perhaps look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.22.41 (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Novel

Currently, the article says that the novelisation is outside the timeline of the other novels. I'm not sure that this is true. For one thing, the very next sentence says that it takes place before Win, Lose or Die. Also, in a line from Gardner's final novel, Cold Fall, M tells Bond: "You, of all people, know the problems that come with personal vendettas." This line was obviously a nod to Licence to Kill. Emperor001 (talk) 21:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)