Talk:Liam Neeson
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[edit] Lincoln project
Has the Lincoln project been confirmed yet? I know it's on IMDb, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. nmw 19:45, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- Never mind--it's confirmed. However, Liam as Rufus Scrimgour in HBP seems extremely far-fetched. They haven't signed the Trio for that yet--they haven't even fully cast OotP. Unless someone can come up with some documentation, I've removed this as unverifiable. nmw 10:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quitting Hollywood
Didn't Liam say he was going to quit Hollywood back in the early 1990's because he was tired of the politics, etc? What happened?
Les MIserable a very big movie and everyone seemingly forget played oppisite of geofferey rush same guy who put it down there i just thought it was funny how ya'll forgot my name is liam. whats this movie about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.12.19 (talk) 22:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Ethnicity
The article says Neeson comes from Northen Ireland. But what is his ethnicity and his religion? Meursault2004 11:01, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
he's an Irish Catholic
yep changed it to Irish after all; thats how he defines himself Superdude99 18:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Changed it back to "Irish" rather than "Irish/American". Liam is not an American citizen; Natasha recently said in an interview that they were thinking of moving back to England. nmw 10:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
- Also, can someone document Liam or Natasha saying that their kids are being raised Catholic? Liam very seldom talks about his children--he's very protective of their privacy--and I find it hard to believe that he would mention their religious education in an interview. nmw 10:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
His place of Birth, Ballymena was recorded in the 2001 census (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballymena#2001_Census) as being predominabtly Protestant. However, his portayal of Michael Collins would perhaps lead you to the conclusion that he had Catholic leanings. He also briefly attended St Mary's teaching school (http://liamneesonfanclub.tripod.com/biography.html), which would point towards his Catholic beliefs, (remember that Northern Ireland had tendancy towards secterianism in the education system at that time). 144.137.153.253 03:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Deepthought
- We know that he was raised Catholic. The question is whether or not he practices, and since we don't know, I prefer to err on the side of not mentioning it -- especially in reference to his kids. nmw 09:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I know (because I have read it) that he is a quite devout Catholic, but mercifully not a Mel Gibson type. He criticized Pope John Paul II from the left. His kids are definitely being raised Catholic, I read it, and their names are Irish, not English - Michéal (not Michael) and Daniel. He had a Catholic priest preside at their wedding (which was not in a church, however), and I read him talking about the value of saying the rosary.
Liam's son is called Michael (not Michéal) after Natasha's father.
By the way, Deepthought, any "secterianism" (misspelled) in the education system is entirely the fault of the Catholics given their insistence on segregated education (just like in Scotland, and until recently, the USA). 216.194.2.144 01:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Byw- Ali-oops may be paying us a visit. He runs the Wikipedia Production Code of censorship (see Pre-Code and its Discussion Page).
Only loyalists could be this obsessive about the man's religion. He's Irish. British people can be British, French can be French but the Irish, it seems, cannot be more than a sect. Only outsiders need to break it down into religious affiliation. Moreover, considering the vast majority of Irish people who happen to be Catholic are not practising Catholics, the only purpose in bringing the man's religion into this is to mark him as one of "the other". El Gringo 01:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Nationality stated as Irish....born in Northern Ireland but Northern Irish not acceptable as a nationality. 05/11/2006
Why not? Northern Ireland is a nation so Northern Irish is a nationality.
Let me get this straight: He views HIMSELF IRISH, He is a catholic, he felt like a second class citizen growing up, in northern ireland, yet people like to deem him Northern Irish? Why don't you go over the the Sean Connery article and edit Scottish actor into British actor, see how the contributors on that page would like it. Get my point? Superdude99 01:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I get your point but I'm not saying he's British I'm saying he's Nothern Irish which shouldn't have to be associated with any particular religion. The man was born and raised in Northern Ireland which is a separate country from England, Scotland, Wales and the Republic of Ireland no matter how strong the ties between them may be. Therefore it shouldn't be so outrageous to say that he's Northern Irish.
- Its not a question of it being 'outrageous' to call him Northern Irish, but what would be the point of changing it from Irish? He is Irish. I don't think there's a dispute that Neeson is from Northern Ireland--the bio states that he was born in Northern Ireland. Is it really necessary to say basically that he's a Northern Irish actor from Northern Ireland? Stating that he's from Northern Ireland and adding that his nationality is Irish, however, rather than just being repititious (as in the NI actor from NI), does add a layer of (accurate) detail about the man. The other way to go would be to simply avoid the nationality issue altogether by only stating that he is "an actor born in Ballymena, Northern Ireland." Period. But since we know that he considers himself Irish, the question remains, what would be the point of *not* calling him Irish? Nuclare 20:48, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it could be tweaked to say he´s an ulsterman, but most people outside uk-Ireland North america probably have no idea where ulster lies. Superdude99
Also keep in mind that nearly NOONE calls themself `Northern Irish` its nearly always Irish or British, check out the northern ireland page. Superdude99
I call myself Northern Irish Superdude!! When the Northern Ireland Parliament was opened in 1921, there is a photograph of the plaque outside reading something along the lines of "The Opening of the Northern Irish Parliament"!! I think it's quite offensive that outsiders (i.e. non-Northern Irish people) are trying to deny the people of Northern Ireland the right to our own identity. You insist on calling us Irish regardless of what we call ourselves (Northern Irish/Ulsterman/woman - whatever!) and I for one reject that imposition. 132.185.144.122 16:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Okay this should be easy to solve. What does Liam call himself? Does he simply say "Irish" or "Northern Irish"? I could take a look at the sources if no one wants to. Even if he is from Northern Ireland, this article is about verifiability, not truth. Wikipedia is simply a reflection of information around us. Wikidan829 16:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
As a person from Northern Ireland, I am ashamed that this type of debate is still going on in 2007. I happen to be different but Liam, and all those like him, are protected by our local constitution (The Good Friday and St. Andrew's Agreement's) to be recognised as Irish, British or both if they choose. Liam is an Irishman. It has his right as a resident of the island of Ireland to be Irish. Respect his and all the other people like him. That is only we are ever going to move forward in this little area. Just because I am one thing, doesn't make him or anyone else. I am both Irish and British. Liam is Irish. Give him his right to be so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.190.71 (talk) 23:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Why is it not mentioned in the article that he attended the Gaiety School of Acting in Dublin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.147.141.202 (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Attack of the Clones
Shouldn't he be credited in the filmography for the appearance of his voice (as Qui-Gon Jinn) in Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones? kallemax 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Rufues Scrimgeour
More than one person has tried to put up here that he has been cast as Rufus Scrimgeour in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Princ. Can anyone offer evidence to verify this?
- I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever. Given that they haven't fully cast Order of the Phoenix--which isn't being released until 2007--and that no director has been selected for HBP, I find it highly unlikely that any serious casting decisions have been made yet.nmw 08:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
has everyone forgotten les miserable the movie anyone now he played the lead jean valjont(probably wrong spelling)
[edit] Ahem...could we be any more cliched?
'In fact, as a young man most of his friends were Protestants'? Would the Ballymena Tourist official who wrote this please stop! El Gringo 23:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Why does the Shindler's list bit at beginning even require a citation? Every time someone mentions him I think "that move where he played a Nazi but redeems himself" on those rare times were i go "hey it's Ra's al Ghul!". We're getting a little too slaphappy with the citations, some things are just givens. I'd think anti-Nazi goes right to the point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loki's Valentine (talk • contribs) 17:07, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Keysi Fighting Method
I was looking at the news section of the Keysi Fighting Method web site ([1]), and it says:
"Paul Jennings, one of Hollywood's top Stunt Co-ordinators, along with top Hollywood stuntman Buster Reeves have both been inducted into the KFM family at the latest Summer Camp held during the month of July in Valencia, Spain.
This means that Paul and Buster are amongst a select few along with Liam Neeson (top Hollywood actor) to receive the prestigious KFM family ring."
That seems to indicate that Liam Neeson practices Keysi, doesn't it? As it says he (along with others) have been inducted to the "KFM family" and recived the "KFM family ring", it seems to imply that Liam is a practitioner of Keysi. If so, then shouldn't the article mention his involvement in Keysi? 141.154.165.110 05:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
LOL, you seem a little unsure of yourself, i suggest you go ahead and add it, youve got a source.
[edit] Nationality
Someone has edited the intro. from Liam being called an Irish actor to this:
"Born in Ballymena, Northern Ireland, he is a British citizen but identifies with Irish nationalism."
I'm afraid I don't find this to be a useful way of describing his nationality. People from Northern Ireland have a legal right not just to Irish identity, but also to Irish citizenship. Liam has called himself an Irish citizen (I can't find the article, but it was in the interview in the now-defunct "George" magazine"--anyone know where to find that article?) and also in other sources he has called himself Irish. Saying that he "identifies with Irish nationalism" implies political affiliations that have nothing to do with whether he can accurately be called Irish or not and are, probably, unprovable in Liam's case. I see no point in not calling him Irish, but I am revising this to leave nationality terms out of it. Nuclare 00:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I found the article with the "I'm an Irish citizen" quote from Neeson. If "Irish actor" gets put back in there, here's a supporting citation: Magazine name: George. "Liam Neeson's Private Galaxy." June 1999. Lloyd Grove (writer).
It's at http://www.liamneeson-fansite.com/main.htm under 'Press.' Nuclare 00:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Apologies, I misunderstood the situation. Cop 633 14:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
No offence to whoever took (or uploaded) the infobox picture, but are we really that desperate for one of Neeson? I suggest we remove it (or place it elsewhere in the article) until a clearer (and preferably face on) photograph of Neeson can be attained. -- My NameIs URL 23:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- The fact is, its a free use image, that's what's important. Now I would prefer a better one as well, but that is the only free use image on Flickr. I suggest it stays there, until a clearer face on image can be obtained, and then moved elsewhere in the article. A free use image, no matter what it is like, its better than nothing or a fair use image. Gran2 06:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- A free use image, no matter what it is like, its better than nothing or a fair use image. I'm not at all sure it is, in this case! But if it's to stay, that's fine. :-) -- My NameIs URL 15:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well I mean, obviously if its just their leg or arm its rubbish and can't be used, but I mean, this is just side on. You can see alot of his face, and enough to tell its him. If a better can be found the I suggest, using the full uncropped version of the current one, elsewhere in the article or something. But for now, I think this is alright. Gran2 16:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- A free use image, no matter what it is like, its better than nothing or a fair use image. I'm not at all sure it is, in this case! But if it's to stay, that's fine. :-) -- My NameIs URL 15:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
How the hell can you tell who he is, just by looking at the back of his head?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.180.69 (talk • contribs) Jul 15, 2007
- Most people use their eyes. Anyway it was a side on shot, and there's a better image now anyway. Gran2 17:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject class rating
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