Talk:LGBT rights in Europe

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[edit] Republic of Ireland

Same-sex civil union is forthcoming in 2008.


Single gay people may adopt children (a same-sex couple cannot adopt)


Same-sex couples may foster children as there is a dire need for foster parents at present. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.252.193 (talk) 17:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)



[edit] Constitutional ban on same-sex marriage in Serbia

Hi. I'd just like to clarify why I removed the line on Serbia having a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. There is no mention of same-sex marriage in the Constitution of Serbia, and there is no explicit exclusive definition of marriage being solely between "one man and one woman" (i.e. Federal Marriage Amendment). Article 62 of the Serbian Constitution states, "Marriage shall be entered into based on the free consent of man and woman before the state body." That does not mean a constitutional ban; in fact, most countries in Europe use similar wording in that regard. Ronline ✉ 01:21, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Serbia does have a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. This is the original text of the Serbian constitution in Serbian language. I realize that the English translation you read is a bit ambiguous, but the original version in Serbian (which I speak, btw.) is completely unambiguous on the matter and it could be translated better as “one man and one woman”, if that would clear things up. The ban on same-sex marriage, which was introduced in the Constitution in 2006, is well known to LGBT organizations in Serbia. If you have some doubts and spare time, you can always contact them. I do appreciate your effort to contribute, and your obvious optimism, but I guess the only thing we on Wikipedia can do is report the situation correctly, even if we would like things to be different.--Midjungards 23:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changing Central Europe to Western Europe

I'm being bold here and changing the title of the third chart to Western Europe. France, to take one example, has never been considered part of Central Europe in the English language (and I suspect, not in any other language). For comparison, see the articles under those names; also, see the UN-designated statistical areas in the map at Europe#Territories_and_regions.--Textorus 19:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Public Opinion around Europe

In the section "Public Opinion around Europe" the difference in public opinion between different parts of Europe is desribed by:

Legal recognition and social acceptance of gay rights in Europe vary among different parts of Europe. Western Europe is considered to be the most liberal in regards to gay rights; Northern Europe is more moderate (with Scandinavia and the UK being more liberal), and tend to focus on less controversial issues such as taxation and adding anti-discrimination laws for homosexuals in certain areas. Southern Europe tends to be slightly more conservative (with the exception of Spain), but is more accepting of gay rights than Eastern Europe. East Europe is the least accepting of gay rights, the populace there being strongly influenced by the Orthodox and Catholic churches and some containing former communist countries.

Now, the difference between Western and Northern Europe on one hand and Southern and Eastern Europe on the other can be seen very clearly, both in the Eurobarometer poll cited and the legislation tables. Yet the difference in the text describes this difference (or perhaps only the difference between Northern and Southern Europe) as "slightly more conservative". Any clear difference between Western and Northern Europe, on the other hand, is harder to find in those two sources. Yet Western Europe is described as "the most liberal" and Northern Europe as "more moderate". Northern Europe is said to "focus on less controversial issues such as taxation and adding anti-discrimination laws for homosexuals in certain areas".

Can someone either motivate how one can see this difference between Western and Northern Europe in the statistics supplied or back it up with some other citation? I also wonder what the more controversial issues are that Western Europe is more focused on than Northern Europe. I saw in the history that the same text used to read similarly but with the word "progressive" instead of "moderate". This distinction between Western and Northern Europe might be more appropriate, (although I'm not quite sure what the difference between liberal and progressive would be in this context) but I still think we would need a source. Jkej 18:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wouldn't be Australia more accepting continent

Then Europe ? After all they are countries in Europe like Poland which aren't very accepting of LGBT people.--Molobo 20:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

But countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, UK, France, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, Spain (you get the idea) that are more accepting than Poland...and I would dare say Australia.EvilEuropean (talk) 09:22, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Italy

I'm italian and live in italy. In Italy there is no registrated or unregistrated parternships. The v in the box is incorect! In some cities the major of the city has instituited a registry. But theese registries don't have any legal value, they are only paper with no value for the state of Italy. It's only pubblicity for the progressist ideas of the major. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.55.82.176 (talk) 05:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)