Talk:LG Voyager (VX10000)

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on December 1, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

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[edit] Pictures

You might ask, where are pictures of Voyager? Lots of other web sites have them. The problem is, most of those other web sites are violating Verizon's copyright on the pictures.

Wikipedia needs permission from Verizon before we can use their pictures. I've contacted Verizon's media rep. She replied back, but as with any large corporation it might take a while for a definitive answer. If it takes too long, we can buy the phone in November and take pictures of it ourselves. Egumtow 18:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisement

I think it's clear how much this article sounds like an advertisement. I'm adding the tag, if anyone disagrees they can discuss it here. Fatla00 (talk) 05:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It's in ad-speak: e.g. 'features'. An encyclopedia says a bird has wings, a marketing department says birds feature wings - with advanced bio-flight technology!(TM) I'm not sure what tag your talking about but it should have it put back. ElectronicsEnthusiast (talk) 14:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sections needed

Now that it is released, there should be a reception section added, and a section to deal with the iphone since it has been labeled as competition for the iphone.--ZeWrestler Talk 18:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Price

This phone's suggested retail is $299 with a new Two Year Agreement or $469 without. I'm not familiar with how Wikipedia articles on cell phones are usually written, so I'm not sure how to go about changing this (if it's even needed). TheUncleBob (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I think the only way to work it in appropriately would be in a comparison to competing products or to other phones in te LG/VZ lines. BTW, the $299 is correct, but it is officially $349 with a $50 mail-in rebate. Mdeaton (talk) 22:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Non-notable cellular phone?

I work at a store that sells Alltel and Verizon and I can assure you, a lot of people know about this phone. Is it any less notable than the EnV or most of the other phones listed on Template:LG phones? How does one determine if a phone is "notable" or not? I'm probably not the one to make this decision, as I'd cut off my big toe for this phone... TheUncleBob 21:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it customary on Wikipedia to have the person that proposed deletion come argue their point. Without any counter argument I say keep, so I guess it's already 2 to 0 for keep.Penman 1323 22:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, I posted the question to the user who put the template up on the article here. My vote is to have this phone stay. But granted, this article is going to need an overhaul. --ZeWrestler Talk 22:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, this is not the forum to discuss the deletion nomination. will381796 03:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survived AFD, now what?

Well, we've gotten the article through the AFD, now what direction should this article go? --ZeWrestler Talk 15:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that setup of Motorola RAZR V3, BlackBerry, and iPhone could be long term goals for any cell phone article. нмŵוτнτ 22:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
References are obviously lacking; the article is almost completely original research, and the two references that do exist are unsubstantial. The section on features reads like an advertisement -- if this phone is truly notable, it's for design and implementation, not for its features. That section is also completely redundant to the infobox. Why have both?
The two references that are in the article don't substantiate the claims the article makes. Either references that do substantiate those claims need to be added, or the material failing WP:V needs to be removed.
While it might be a good idea to aim at the style and layout of notable products, this article will never be at that content level simply because it isn't notable enough to have as much coverage as products that truly are notable. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparrison with iphone

http://comparati.com/890-LG-Voyager-vs-iPhone might be a useful reference for this article. Also there is http://www.homotron.net/2007/12/voyager_becomes_most_shopped_p.html --ZeWrestler Talk 22:59, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Price?

Where are you getting that it costs $150-$250? I'm pretty sure that it costs $300. I'll look it up in a sec and if it isn't true, i'll change it... 67.86.126.40 (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] enV Confusion

The Voyager is not the sucessor or replacing the enV. The enV is going to have a small upgrade to it, which will be the VX9950. I changed the wording to fix this problem.--71.232.229.186 (talk) 00:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NOT a Smartphone

Is the VX10000 really a smartphone? I mean, it runs the same (crippled) OS as all the other Verizon phones, it doesn't allow installation of new apps in the same way most other smartphones do, and I don't believe it supports any kind of synchronization at all. Like the iPhone, I think it's questionable whether or not this can be called a smartphone. It's hardly on the level of Windows Mobile, BlackBerry OS, Symbian S60/UIQ, or even Palm OS. A phone with a keyboard and touch screen, yes, it is. Smartphone, no it isn't. Zirka (talk) 16:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


iPhone wins I think that the Voyager is a copycat of the iPhone, Obviously they knew that there was an iPhone so they probably wanted something better. I vote for the iPhone b/c I think it has better technology. I would not want to have a copycat as an iPhone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.16.184 (talk) 02:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)