Talk:Lexx/LEXX Vs Lexx Discussion
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[edit] "LEXX" vs "Lexx"
Between this and the Lexx spaceship page there is no consitancy about using all caps to refer to the ship rather than the TV show. In fact, I don't think I've seen anyone use all caps anywhere else. Either the all caps should be used throughout the Wikipedia, or this page should be renamed 'Lexx (TV series)' and the LEXX page to 'Lexx (spaceship)'. Any thoughts about which would be better?
[edit] LEXX vs Lexx
The title of the series should be "LEXX", but when refering to the ship, I don't think the entire word is capitalized. It's not an acronym, and it is a name, so the ship being called "Lexx" seems appropriate than calling it "LEXX" --DiSSo 29 June 2005 19:10 (UTC)
I quite agree. I was the original designer of the LEXX logo back in the winter of 1996. We had intended to call the show The Dark Zone and all the pre-production design work in the fall of ’95 was so labelled. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortuitously) we couldn’t get clearance to use that name, and so the show’s iconoclastic creator Paul Donovan decided to call it “LEXX” —after his buddy and co-writer, Lex Gigeroff. Though not an acronym, the logo has always been rendered in caps. In the scripts, Lexx was used when characters were directly addressing the ship, and the Lexx used when referring to it in the third person. (At no point did we ever explain where the name came from.)
Personally, I think the two articles should be combined, "LEXX" should always be used when referring to the show, and the ship referred to as "the Lexx". --OldCommentator 16:43, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I have put the merge template on this article and LEXX. (I don't have time to do the merge myself, at the moment.) After the merge, the articles can be correctly renamed. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 17:07, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Asside from the name issue, shouldn't the Lexx ship be distinct from the entirety of the Lexx series. I vote that the name of the article be changed but that the two remain seperate. However if I am the only one whom feels this way I differ the the speaker whom has actually worked on the show. MaximusNukeage 04:57, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- I've name the renamings now. We now have The Lexx (the ship) and LEXX (the show). I also copied the old talk page text here. I didn't do the merge. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 12:50, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
Agreed — LEXX should refer to the show; Lexx should refer to the ship, or the Lexx, alternatively. I think the Lexx (both italicised) is superfluous, as in the Enterprise.
As well, the two concepts should remain united in one article until there's reason or cause (e.g., enough material) to justify a new article. E Pluribus Anthony 05:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] LEXX Movie/movie Episode/episode
As far as this goes, I believe the second word should be capitalized. I know you must have read the Lowercase second and subsequent wordsarticle, but that is only in general aspect. More specifically, the lowercase second words for a TV show and movie can be found at 4.2 of that article, or simply click here. The lowercase word for a TV show follows that article, which in fact has been rejected by the community. To conclude, I must state that the words movie and episode should be capitalized.
- the MoS states "Convention: Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is a proper noun (such as a name)". The word "episode" is not part of the name of the episode hence is not a proper noun. For another thing, there is precedence (yes, I did double-check); try doing a search for "(TNG episode)" and see how many articles come up. Shiroi Hane 21:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
The words "movie" and "episode" should not be capitalized, as per the usual Wikipedia standards. Actually, the standard is to use the word "film" rather than "movie" within disambiguation parentheses. Please don't revert war over this, it's a settled Wikipedia practice: there are many existing examples of articles like "Nnn (Yyy episode)" and "Nnn (film)" or "Nnn (2003 film)". Also please don't move pages to nonsensical titles like "Bobfee", that's vandalism. -- Curps 22:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
On IMDB, the four first-season installments are considered episodes rather than movies: [1]; there's no separate listing for them as movies. But that's a minor detail, I guess. -- Curps 22:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- They were made-for-tv 'movies', of a longer length than the episodes in the following three series; I left them as "movie" since there didn't seem to be a need to change it but I don't mind either way. Shiroi Hane 22:22, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Consistent with the Manual of Style and other genres in Wp, e.g., Star Trek articles, the words "movie" and "episode" in article titles should not be capitalised. Thus:
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- Title (LEXX episode) – e.g., Giga Shadow (LEXX episode)
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- For consistency, Season 1 movies have been rendered/moved to "episode" (with redirect), but I acknowledge that they have also been billed as movies. I guess they are 'episodic movies'. :) Thoughts? Thanks! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 06:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Both Curps and I already referenced the MOS and I also brought up the precedence with Star Trek, so I thought the capitalization issue was already done and dusted. As I said before I don't really mind what they're referred to, although I do have a personal preference for movie as they have always been referred to as such. Shiroi Hane 18:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I guess I was chiming in late, but better that than never to further reinforce consensus. As for movie/ep titles for season 1, I'm fairly ambivalent as well but even the images of the DVD covers use both terms, so what's good for the goose may not be good for the gander. :)
- Anyhow, efforts are underway (below) to improve the lists and ep articles. Given that and the recent (failed) nomination of the LEXX ep list for deletion, these articles require enhanced attention. Feel free to participate. Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 18:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Requested move — back to Lexx
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 07:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Outside of Wikipedia, the name of this show is almost always expressed in standard capitalization. (Do a search.)
While searching for licensed items (DVDs, et cetera) and browsing through archives of Lexx.com, I believe you'll find that the only authoritative basis for the full capitalization of Lexx is the logotype.
Logotypes, however, are stylistic treatments which do not define the normative capitalization of the names they represent. (Consider those of Firefly, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, Heroes, AT&T, Wal-Mart, Pepsi and many, many, many others.)
Finally, regardless of any variants found in written usage, whether by the public or the rights holders themselves, the standard capitalization satisfies WP:MOS-CL and WP:MOS-TM. I requested a move. RVJ 04:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just a small quibble: DNS names are case-independent, per RFC 1034, etc. lexx.com and Lexx.com would have to be the same domain; capitalization of domain names is up to the user. Avt tor 22:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support: in the absence of evidence to suggest that the title is an acronym of some sort, lowercase it should be. Chris cheese whine 01:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support - LEXX looks ugly, and the ship's name is definately the Lexx anyway. -- Beardo 05:04, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.