Talk:Lexus ES
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[edit] Merge
I think that Toyota Windom should redirect to Lexus ES, much like Toyota Aristo redirects to Lexus GS. I will be happy to merge the non-redundant information from the Toyota article, provided there is consensus to go ahead with the merge. DonIncognito 03:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The Toyota Windom and the Lexus ES are the Exact same cars, abeit sold on a different market. Isn't Toyota Windom gonna be replaced by the Lexus ES soon because I heard that Toyota is starting to sell cars under the Lexus nameplate in Japan. Footballrocks41237 03:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] EPA & Lexus
The Camry was a compact car platform until 2002. The EPA considered the Lexus ES as a compact until 2001. The LS used to be mid-size until 2000. -- Bull-Doser 01:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- What the EPA thinks is irrelevent to Wikipedia. IFCAR 01:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manual Transmission
Removed "The 1993 ES 300 was the last Lexus sedan to offer a 5-speed manual transmission until the introduction of the IS 300." because the SC300 was available with a 5-speed manual until 1997.
But the SC is a coupe, not a sedan. The statement was in fact correct. 142.31.10.90 (talk) 22:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding Lexus ES vs. Windom
The 1st generation ES had NO exact JDM sibling. Yes, it was really based on Vista (BTW, the main difference between Vista V2x and Camry V2x were doors -- Vista had frameless doors, while Camry had frames). BUT: in Japan, only 2.0 V6 (1VZ-FE?) was offered, while ES250 had 2.5 2VZ-FE. And, by the way, JDM version of what could be "ES200" was named Camry Prominent (neither Vista nor Windom, unlike stated in the article!).
<<<http://www.echigo.ne.jp/~shokaku/car/vista1.jpg http://www.cars-directory.net/gallery/toyota/camry_prominent/1989/toyota_camry_prominent_3061842_p.html they both look like the es250, so is the es250 based on both? if i rebadge my es250, what should i call it? above it says there is no exact jdm sibling but in those pix it looks like there is>>> ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.179.120 (talk) 10:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
And relationship between 1st gen US Camry (VZV10) and 1st gen Windom exactly mirrored relationship between JDM Camry and Vista (SV30) -- they differed mainly in door frames, with Windom looking just as an enlarged Vista. Bolkhov 06:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thx for the information, I have added the 'partly' based on Toyota Vista for the 1st generation ES 250 section, and adjusted the reference to a 2.5L version related to the second gen ES 300 to say "including the VCV-11 Windom". Is this okay? Googling the Windom and Camry Prominent finds both with 2.5L V6s...[1] and [2]. The article states that the second generation ES 300 onwards until the fifth generation ES 350 shared similarities with the Windom, I was not aware of the Camry Prominent until you pointed it out. If there is any additional detail or correction to add to the article, any suggestions on how to do so would be great. Thanks! Enigma3542002 08:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
