Talk:Lexus/Archive 2

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Lexus Userbox

Hello, for all Lexus afficianados I have created a Lexus enthusiast userbox. The mark-up is "User Lexus fan" Here is the userbox:

This user is a Lexus enthusiast.

Thanks for contributing, Regards, Signaturebrendel 02:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Year Lexus was Introduced to Japan??

I think you should check which year lexus was introduced into Japan. I lived in Japan from 2000-2004 and seen many Lexus cars in Japan. My wife who is Japanese has a picture of her ex boyfriend standing next to his Lexus in Japan taken in the mid 90's.Kinait 22:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

There were imports of Lexus vehicles in Asia for a long time now, and many rebadging options were available in Japan for years before the Lexus debut--Aristo buyers would swap out titles for the GS, for instance. Officially though, Lexus debuted in 2005--that's for sure, but Lexus vehicles have existed before that. Enigma3542002 08:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Lexus was introduced to Japan as a brand and dealer network in August 2005. All cars with the Lexus badge were Toyota-badged cars in Japan from the Toyopet network. [1] Here's a list of "Lexus" models with their previous Toyota names:
Celsior became LS
Aristo became GS
Soarer became SC
Altezza became IS
And some Toyotas that didn't change to Lexus in Japan:
RX remains the Toyota Harrier.
LX remains the Toyota Landcruiser Cygnus.
ES was known as the Toyota Windom, but ceased production in 2005-6.

You could buy Lexus badges in Japan to fit to your Toyota Celsior etc. Though no-one outside Japan seemed as interested in swapping from a Lexus to a Toyota badge. Reference: "Japanese Motor Vehicles Guidebook", known before 2005 (I'm not joking) as "Automotive Guidebook of Japan". --In no sense nonsense 11:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation. Enigma3542002 08:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Semi protection

I've semi-protected this page due to repeated vandalism from anon users. I'm guessing that there is a forum post somewhere encouraging members to vandalize the page. Any accounts created for the purpose of continuing the vandalism will be blocked indefinitely without further notice. If there is a legitimate edit that you feel needs to be made to the article, feel free to bring it up on the talk page. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for protecting the page from the vandals!! I'm wondering if there is a single user with a scrambling IP address who keeps doing the same inproper edits.
One thing--the vandals' edits consistently reverted the article several days into the past, erasing whole paragraphs from the Design, L-Finesse, Future, and other sections. I just reverted the article to the most recent full edit, keeping the special protection in place. This revert also eliminates the 'Japanese brands' box that was added back by the vandals.
In one of my edits, I re-added that box myself and adjusted the opening sentence, hoping that would placate the vandals and keeping them from reverting the whole article just to change a few sentences. But it didn't work, so our best bet is to block them from editing. Enigma3542002 21:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The vandal has come back again. If they were trying to edit for meaningful reasons, you would think they'd know not to revert the page to weeks and weeks if not months in advance! Enigma3542002 05:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Lexus lights

They might be called "'Lexus-style' lights" in the united states, but they are just called 'Lexus lights' in the UK 82.36.228.184 10:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Ads don't belong here

Image:Lexus_Advanced_Parking_Guidance_System_ad.jpg

  • It's neat and all but it's an advertisement. This article is supposed to inform people, not urge them to buy the car. --Indolences 03:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I doubt this photograph will cause anyone to buy the car. Yes, it is an advertisement, but it is within the historical context of the article (The Lexus brand/Launch/Today). The advent of the automatic parking system is a major technological innovation (referenced by its own article, Advanced Parking Guidance System, and a mention in the lead paragraph of Toyota), not least for all the controversy it caused, but also for how much the press covered it, and how computing capabilities have advanced to reach this type of technology. If you studied luxury car history, you would know that the champagne glasses ad, winner of multiple national advertising awards, is a major factor in why this car and this brand became successful. This photograph informs people about the history and technological capabilities of the flagship, all at the same time. It is definitely relevant, especially because a lot of the Lexus brand (and some would say most of) is about marketing success. Enigma3542002 04:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Furthermore, the image of the champagne glasses and the car has become one of the most identifiable and iconic illustrations of this car brand, and has been copied a number of times by multiple car manufacturers. It even resulted in new tests by AMCI and possibly Consumer Reports [2]. In essence, not only did this ad have a historical significance for a brand, and technological relevance, it also had an impact on popular culture, becoming one of the most memorable car advertisements of all time (special mention in Brandweek, best ad listing in Adweek [3], EFFIE awards Gold Medal winner, and International Automotive Advertising Awards (IAAA) winner). This is similar to, but arguably more famous and impactful, than the more recent Honda Cog (television_commercial) ad. It is no surprise then when launching their newest model, the vehicle premiered at NAIAS with a champagne glass stage and ads and imagery all following this theme. The point of these mentions is that this was much more than just an ad, this was a brand defining moment that had popular culture implications, including historical, technological, marketing, and other elements. You can't just put any ad in there, this is a specific instance of a directly relevant image. Enigma3542002 05:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

You sure are the Lexus connoisseur. Do you own one of these fine automobile? --Indolences 04:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

edit: I am now using IE7 and the transparent svgs (rendered as pngs) are transparent. --Indolences 04:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

My car is not in the luxury category; I am but a luxury automobile enthusiast. I wish I could afford one of these vehicles, or a competing luxury vehicle. A number of my friends and acquaintances do have Lexus, Mercedes, and Porsche cars though--have ridden from time to time. At this level of cars, there are many fine choices. Enigma3542002 08:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I haven't had a chance to try the new IE yet, I heard it is much improved. Enigma3542002 08:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be a source of information about all sorts of subjects. Information about Lexus should include what sort of image they are trying to get. This image shows their target customers perfectly. --84.178.77.183 18:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


Katakana badge?

Is it only a coincidence that the Lexus logo also looks a lot like the Katakana character レ [re]? And if one tried to pronounce "Lexus" in Japanese, might it not come out something like *レクスス [reku̥susu̥]? I wonder what that might mean in Japanese?

--Ziusudra 03:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I looked it up, and its actually レクサス [reku̥sasu̥]. The fact that the Japanese is written with the サ [sa] kana leads one to think that it might first have been concocted in English with a schwa pronunciation for the <u>, which was then approximated in Japanese with [a]. Or, it could be the reverse (though I doubt it).

--Ziusudra 20:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Interesting, so it is basically a phonetic translation of the word "Lexus." I surmised as much because the brand was developed with an English name in mind first. Enigma3542002 03:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


Lexus article vandalism

Wikipedia is NOT lexus dealer. page is very dirty.Locomotove2 07:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

-So, who cares? Lexus is the best! Describing it is praising god! I never understood how you Americans could buy those cars... those ugly ugly japanese copies of european culture...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.53.198.84 (talk • contribs)

Yes, there are extreme viewpoints on car makes, some more than others. However, this article is to be informative about the car makes without overtly praising, rather it is to be factually based. And to note--the poster who claimed 'advertisement' has been blocked for vandalism, repeated sockpuppetry accounts/attacks. Enigma3542002 19:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)