Talk:Letizia, Princess of Asturias

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Contents 1 Not yet married 2 née 3 Strange Redirect 4 Erika Ortiz Rocasolano 5 Birth after Death 6 Fair use rationale for Image:Letizia Ortiz Coat of Arms.jpg 7 1st husband 8 Name Letizia during her first marriage

[edit] Not yet married

Wait a minute. Jiang has now change the page to start with Her Royal Highness, The Princess of Asturias, but she's not princess yet as the wedding is in May. Let us not write history before it actually is history... This should be change back! --Vikingstad 08:49, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] née

I used "née" because I don't imagine "Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano" is her full name anymore. Wouldn't it be, if anything, "Letizia Ortiz de Borbón y Grecia"? - Montréalais 16:29, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No. See Diana, Princess of Wales. --Cantus 20:42, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

What does Diana have to do with Letizia? The Spanish naming system and the British naming system are rather different. Letizia was born Ortiz y Rocasolano, daughter of Jesus Ortiz y Alvarez del Valle and Maria Paloma Rocasolano y Rodriguez. Her maiden name (apellido de soltera) was "Letizia Ortiz y Rocasolano". A woman's married name, her apellido de casada, consists of her forename, her father's first surname, and her husband's first surname appended with a de: on marriage to a "Borbón y Grecia" she became "Letizia Ortiz de Borbón" - Nunh-huh 21:06, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

That's an old style tradition, no longer in practical use. As long as I know, legally women in Spain never lost their surnames after wedding and this is the convention used nowadays. ManuelGR 21:45, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

in spain, the womans never change their surnames,always is the first father surname and the first mother surname

Exactly, in Spain women do never change their name. The above mentioned form of "de" followed by the husband's name is now old-fashioned but anyway was never legal. It was only a way of calling yourself but women never changed their name legally. Therefore she has never been called Letizia Guerrero. Do please change that as it is a serious error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.147.17.60 (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Strange Redirect

Why does Alonso Guerrero y Pérez, her first husband, redirect to this page? --67.71.78.193 1 July 2005 19:28 (UTC)

[edit] Erika Ortiz Rocasolano

There is a lot of important information in that article. I think it is, but User:Andromeda apparently thinks not. I don't want to start a revert war about this, because I think that as it stands, the article has sufficient information. So what if she's the sister of the Crown Princess of Spain. I think her death, and the circumstances around it is notable enough to warrant her own article. Morhange 06:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I am afraid that I have to agree with Andromeda. Érika Ortiz Rocasolano is not a notable enough person to have her own biography. Nobody should be able to imagine an article about her before her death. Er Komandante 20:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC) PS: it seems that wikinews in english doesn't have an article about her death, maybe there it should be acceptable. Er Komandante 20:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Then maybe a subarticle from Letizia to Erika? I agree with Morhange, and I think the issue should have been at least debated before taking any action. Her death made her internationally (not locally) notable -so what's the problem? Is that against any policy? I'm not that fussed either way, but I think a subarticle would work for everyone. Raystorm 22:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birth after Death

It seems the dates are off. It says she gave birth in April 2007, but died on Feb 7, 2007. I don't believe that's possible.Irishpisces 18:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Princess Letizia gave birth in April, her sister, Érika Ortiz Rocasolano, died in February. -- Arwel (talk) 21:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Letizia Ortiz Coat of Arms.jpg

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[edit] 1st husband

Was her first husband her high-school teacher? --Error 00:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name Letizia during her first marriage

Letizia was married from 1998-1999 with Alonso Guerrero y Pérez, a previous teacher of hers. What are the naming conventions for a married woman in Spain, and how was she named and styled then? Something like Mrs. Letizia Guerrero-Ortiz?? Demophon (talk) 13:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• See Spanish naming customs. Simply put: Spanish women do not take their husbands names upon marriage. Even after marrying the Prince of Asturias, her official name remained Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.240.11.65 (talk) 22:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)