Talk:Les Légions Noires
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Almost all of this is rumor. Absolutely needs to be erased or at least cut down to a few paragraphs. There's no denying the subjectivity and personal bias that exists throughout!
hi. a lot of the bands metnioned in the list at the bottom are meely rumoured to exist and demos of theirs have not surfaced in hard-copy or mp3 form. if anyone is very familiar with the Les legions noire and knows for sure that music of a certain band has not surfaced, please delete them from the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.219.80 (talk • contribs) 10:31, March 8, 2006
The biggest problem with this article is that "Les Legions Noires" is spelled incorrectly in the title, so searching for it doesn't work properly.
The "Street Metal Forum" is now closed, if it does not open up in a few days, it will be removed for good (or until it opens) Empyriumlover 19:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
There is another band called Chambre Noir which has been supposedly been confirmed as an official band.
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[edit] List of bands
...is ridiculously long. Wikipedia is not a repository for unsourced information about non-notable groups. Almost all of the bands do not have articles, presumably because almost nothing is known about them and as such, they have no place in an encyclopedia. I'm removing all of the redlinks. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 17:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Improving the article
Given that it looks likely that the article will survive AfD (and I've come round to the point of view that this is reasonable if given a sensible re-write - thank you to User:Chubbles for his work on this so far), we need to look at what we can do to make this a decent looking article. Sources are going to be difficult if not impossible to find, but I recommend a step-by-step, even line-by-line, approach to improvement. So to start with the lead... I think a reasonable first question is to define whether the Black Legions actually refers to the bands / projects involved, or to the members themselves. I am comparing this to circles like the Norwegian Black Metal Mafia or "Inner Circle" and the Swedish True Satanist Horde. A brief mention of the Black Legions occurs in Terrorizer's Black Metal Special, in its overview of the French scene, in which it suggests they were directly influenced by the Inner Circle (p.38, #128, written by Guy Strachan): "But sadly, the only way most proud French BM warriors found to get some recognition abroad was to use the genre's worst habits. A bunch of corpsepainted characters, rumoured to be drawn from such acts as Mutiilation, Torgeist and Vlad Tepes named themselves the 'Black Legions' as a tribute to the so-called 'Black Mafia' Norwegian BM heroes Darkthrone and Burzum, who were supposedly ready to terrorize innocent Christians a couple of years before. Even though it didn't go any further, the gentlemen of the Black Legions devoted their energy to a war of words that is still talked about today. They sent death threats to Anchoiade [umlaut on the 'i'] for not being true enough and presents like dead rats to French death metal, or as they called it, "life metal" outfits like Crusher." The article then moves on to talk about French NSBM; the section on French underground BM in Lords Of Chaos similarly talks exclusively about NSBM, with (unfortunately) no mention of the Black Legions.
Also, potentially of interest (and may provide a reference for LLN influence), later in the same issue (p.44; written by Nathan T. Birk)), when talking about the current black metal underground: "One should never count out France, primarily as the home of the inscrutably influential Black Legions of ridiculous rawness during the mid-90s [...]It gets even crazier with such grim and weird nutters as Nuit Noire, Svest, Spektr, Arkham and Diapsiquir injecting some defiant art into that Black legions archetype." I hope some of this is useful; I'll keep trying to dig out more reliable sources, as in this case I really feel the rumour-mill online cannot be regarded as reliable. Even the usually decent Metal Archives has been infected with rumours that couldn't be used under WP:BLP, e.g. regarding Meyhna'ch's expulsion due to drug use and the like. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 02:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of bands, March 2008
An anonymous user reverted the list of bands to include all of those for which we have no evidence of existence (i.e. a Google search hit this page and others that are C&P from this page). I have as such removed them again. If a source can be found for any of them, we could consider reinstating them, but to be honest if they don't even have a Metal Archives page you're going to be struggling, and I hesitate to call that a reliable source anyway (though all bands with such pages are already listed in the current version of the article). Blackmetalbaz (talk) 09:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] LLN project matrix
In order to have a more clear overview of WHO is involved in WHICH project, i designed the following table that you find temporarily on my user page: User:Irina666#LLN_project_matrix. Should I integrate it in the article? The sources come mainly from metal-archive. I took only the projects who have releases listed on that site (that eliminates a few that are currently listed in this article). Please comment, and don't hesitate to improve it... Irina666 (talk) 00:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- the table is now integrated in the article, so apply any modifications directly there (in place of the "bands and projects" list) Irina666 (talk) 17:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
