Talk:Les Halles

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Why was the photo removed. I signed the certification and scanning postcards is legal.... Elliot


Mav's a little quick on the draw, I think, but I can see why he deleted it if you didn't respond to his question in a reasonable time. While scanning anything at all is legal, posting it here may not be, and it's important to record the source of an image on its description page. Recently-taken photos are by default copyrighted, with no notice needed, so unless the postcard explicitly says otherwise, one cannot use a postcard photo here. Also, check your user "talk" page now and then to see if anyone is trying to clarify something--an asterisk (*) should appear next to the "talk" link if there's something there. --LDC

The photo that was here could not be recently taken but would be one of the thousands taken by the French government just before Les Halles market was torn down 23 years ago. I would imagine that any postcard would be one of these government promo photos.

23 years is recent enough for the purpose of copyright (which lasts at least 50 years after the author's death, or longer depending on variations in law between countries). I don't know much about French law, but if they are like the US in that creative works by the government are public domain, then perhaps they are safe. If that's the case, upload it again an put that description on the description page so we'll know what we're dealing with. --LDC

Creative works by the national or local governments in France are not public domain in general. There are some cases thought where the content is by law under a free license, but that's not the case here. There are disputes as to whether a public service whose mission is not to create intellectual property can hold copyrights. Furthermore, things that apply to the national government (resp. to the US federal government) do not necessarily apply to local governments (resp. to state governments).
So, to summarize: these promo photos are unfree. However, you may possibly claim "fair use" over them. Also, it's highly probable that nobody would ever care to sue Wikimedia over them. David.Monniaux 13:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Les Halles

The issue No. 024-B. 2005 of the journal Le Courrier australien contains an interesting article (in French) on the remodelling project, recently awarded to the French architect David Mangin (Seura).

[edit] Pronunciation

Is it really pronounced /le al/ or is there elision, so that it's more like /les al/ ? Since the H is not pronounced, it seems to me that this would be the correct pronunciation, but I have never heard "Les Halles" spoken by a native French speaker, so I can't be sure... Starrynight06 (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)