Talk:Leopoldo López

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[edit] POV issues

The subsection "Target of the Venezuelan Government" violates WP:NPOV policy:

  • In the Carabobo incident López says demostrators wore Podemos shirts, etc. They are not the Venezuelan government in any case.
    • They arrived in government cars. Sandy 15:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • In the Zulia incident www.chacao.gov cannot be considered reliable per WP:RS
    • If Chacao.gov is not a reliable source, neither are any of the government sources controlled/published by Chavez. Sandy 15:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • In the driver murder case there is no connection even with Chávez supporters

JRSP 03:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The wording here does need to be NPOV'd, but I have some sources somewhere that back up the jist of the story. I'll work on them tomorrow. Sandy 04:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I find no indication anywhere that the driver/bodyguard "died in Lopez's arms" - in fact, several sources say he had dropped Lopez off at a restaurant. Sandy 15:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

  • Kraul, Chris. A Lightning Rod for Venezuela's Political Strife. Los Angeles Times (19 July 2006). Online here. "Lopez figures his real offense is that he poses an electoral threat as a fiscally conservative alternative to the socialist, anti-American "Bolivarian Revolution" espoused by Chavez." "Although Chavez opponents say all dissidents are being targeted, Lopez seems to be the object of a full-out campaign. The government has filed 26 criminal charges against him going back to 1998, with counts including illegal campaign financing and violation of building codes. Conviction on any one of them could result in a jail term. Lopez denies the charges, one of which is related to the coup." "The latest example of what Lopez says is political aggression may put his political career on ice. Last month, the controller general disqualified him from running for any office until 2017. Lopez, one of the leading lights in Primero Justicia, an anti-Chavez opposition party, says he will fight the ruling." "Lopez says he fears for his life, and that the killing of his bodyguard was meant to send a message. "It's that we can kill you any time we want, in your own car, in your own municipality," he said." "But one well-known rights proponent in Caracas who requested anonymity said the campaign against Lopez showed the "militarization" of Venezuelan politics, dating to Chavez's inauguration in 1999." "Militarization is sometimes more than a figure of speech, and Lopez's administration at times has seemed under siege. In October, 40 officers with the pro-Chavez metropolitan police force took over the Chacao police station. Brandishing pistols and at least one machine gun, they freed a man the local force had arrested on arms possession charges."
  • Wilson, Peter. Caracas Mayor Orders Seizure of Two Golf Courses. Bloomberg (29 August 2006).
  • U.S. State Department (2005). Country Reports on Human Rights Practices: Venezuela. (8 March 2006). "In November the controller general suspended from political activity Leopoldo Lopez, an opposition party mayor of a Caracas municipality, for a period of six years after he leaves office in 2008. The controller alleged that Lopez mishandled municipal funds in 2002. Lopez claimed the move was unconstitutional and part of a strategy by the Chavez government to eliminate the political opposition."
  • Mayor López under siege of hooded in campus. El Universal (10 February 2006). "López, member of opposition Primero Justicia party, said on the phone that no authority has been present to contain the action of the people who were in T-shirts of pro-government Podemos party and claimed to be members of the government of the central Carabobo state."
  • Secuestrado por varias horas Alcalde Leopoldo López en la Universidad de Carabobo. Globovision (10 February 2006). "Calificó la situación de delicada por el tipo de armamento que portaban los manifestantes quienes portaban franelas del partido político oficialista Podemos “vimos armas largas, escopetas, revólveres pistolas, personas que están en varias partes de la universidad”. Dijo que estas personas portaban franelas del partido Podemos y algunos vehículos de la gobernación y encapuchados."
  • Por más de dos horas fue secuestrado alcalde López en la Universidad de Carabobo. UnionRadio.net (10 February 2006). "El alcalde dijo que el grupo llegó en vehículos de la gobernación del estado. Telecaribe logró tomar un vídeo de las acciones violentas, pero fueron golpeados y despojados de sus equipos, según los testimonios."

Sandy 15:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carmona decree

The signer of the decree is actually López Mendoza's father (not the grandfather as I said in the edit summary). JRSP 10:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

ah, thanks. And thanks for fixing axo - I was on my laptop, didn't have an ñ key, and meant to come back later to fix it.  :-) Is the article OK now? Sandy 12:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
PS - I also wasn't clear on how to distinguish Plaza Francia from Plaza Altamira - put Altamira in parentheses without description. Sandy 12:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
It is the same place. "Plaza Francia" is the official name but "Plaza Altamira" is commonly used. WP articles are never "ok" but sure it looks better now JRSP 12:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of non reliable sources and deletion of sourced material

Accordingly to WP:V "[...] self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources". They cannot be used if it is contentious or involves claims about third parties. Also, do not delete material sourced with reliable, third-party published sources to replace it with material from a blog such as vcrisis: According to the Venezuelan Controller General, Lopez received a grant to his party, Justice First, from PDVSA while working in this company. The grant was given by his mother, Antonieta Mendoza de López, who was the manager of public affairs of PDVSA. Both were sanctioned with a prohibition of holding public jobs for three years. López sanction will start as soon as his term as major ends. [1] JRSP 22:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Please, do not use vcrisis ( or any other blog) as a source, it is against WP:V, see also this mediation case. –JRSP 22:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persistent deletion of sourced material

Some editor has removed several times the contents of the "Investigations and accusations of corruption" section. If someone has some objections to these contents, please discuss this issue here. JRSP 12:30, 18 August 2007 (UTC)