Talk:Lennox Lewis

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"Lewis, ..., faced Vitaly Klitschko instead, knocking him out in six rounds to retain the title."

That sounds biased towards Lewis... Klitschko suffered gashes and was later on disallowed to continue by the ring doctor (being ahead by points). So Lewis didn't really knock out Klitschko.

It is a knockout by the rules. The fight goes down as a TKO-Technical Knockout. You have a point though, perhaps mention could be made of the fact that he was trailing in the fight when it was stopped due to a cut above Kilitschko's eye inflicted by a punch by Lewis. If it was inflicted by an accidental headbutt they go to the scorecards and Klitschko wins so you have to mention it was inflicted by a punch from Lewis.Quadzilla99 08:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


I put a more factual account in there when I edited the article. John

Although Lewis didn't lay Klitschko on the canvas, he did win by knockout. Confusing, ah? Not to us who understand boxing's rules. When the referee stops the fight, it is a knockout most of the time. Just like an inside the park home run in baseball or a goaltending in basketball:

Antonio wheres my head? Martin

The fight was a TKO, which isn't the same as a KO. TKO can be allsorts, ref stopping the fight, corner throwing towel in, fighter going down three times and fight ending on 3 KD rule..allsorts. KO is always that, a knockout, fighter down for ten count. Orbtastic 01:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

How can he be both the 21st and 22nd WBC Heavyweight Champions (with Rahman in-between)? Good point. I fixed it.--SaskatchewanSenator 20:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Lennox Lewis knew the rules and won by TKO, I would have to say that Klitscko's cutmen was really terrible, they were making Vitali's cut worse and worse during the fight. But that doesn't make Klitschko's performance heartworthy and less determined, but his cutmen were logically making the cut worse round by round. --User:Maya Levy 3:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.255.28.81 (talk)

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[edit] One of the top five heavyweights of all time?

The phrase "...is regarded by many to be one the top five greatest heavyweights of all time" is not substantiated. Regarded this way by how many people? Where does he appear in the "best of all time" media rankings? Here are five heavyweights: Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, George Foreman... is he really better than any of these boxers? No. But the point is that this statement is just not substantiated. It should be replaced by a statement like "...is ranked in the top five by the boxing historian so-and-so" or "...was voted as a top five heavywieght by the readers of ring magazine." (Neither of these statements are true, of course.) 69.231.80.104 05:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)Derek

Personally I don't like putting that phrase for anyone. Too much bias. Among the top heavyweights of all time, or considered one of the greatest heavyweights is usually appropriate. Maya Levy 06:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] English immigrant to Canada?

Lewis is categorized as an English immigrant to Canada, but it sounds like he was instead a Jamaican emigrant to Canada, then a Canadian immigrant to the UK. Does this characterization make sense, or am I misunderstanding the text? --Saforrest 01:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

He was born in England, then moved to Canada, fitting the category: English immigrants to Canada. I've never seen anything indicating that he lived in Jamaica.

Canadian immigrant to the UK? His primary residence after he began his professional boxing career is not clear. He owns homes in Canada, the UK and USA.--SaskatchewanSenator 02:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

He has Jamaican ancestry, like many English blacks, but he's not from Jamaica. He was born in England, moved to Canada and fought his amateur career under a Canadian flag, then moved back to England to turn pro. I have it all in "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Boxing." Holymolytree2 14:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

i've never heard of 'one eared willy' as a nickname for lennox lewis - is there any backup for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.20.14 (talk) 20:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral Point of View

Removed the non-neutral point of view comment "..he was too much of a gutless coward, and ..." Camcurwood 15:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead Paragraph

I don't think the duality of his nationality is notable enough to be in the lead paragraph. The sentence "Lewis often referred to himself as "the pugilist specialist"." doesn't seem to belong in the lead paragraph either.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] chump

come on did lewis not retire because he knew in the first fight against vitaly he knew he would have lost if it was not for the cut ,so instead of lewis suffering a loss he just retired because he knew he could not beat vitaly--Wikiscribe (talk) 22:16, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zeljko Mavrovic

"Lewis stated in 2006 that his fight with Mavrovic was the toughest of his career."

If this [1] is the source for this statement, it is misleading.

On his most awkward win: "It would have to be Zeljko Mavrovic. They put us in the ring where the lights were burning my head. That’s how hot it was. It was like a sauna. It was a difficult because he was moving around. It was awkward. This guy trained two years just for me. This is who he wanted to box."--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 05:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] After Tyson's win, however, he [Tyson] refused to defend against Lewis, and the WBC title was declared vacant.

Tantalising sentence, may leave readers needing to look beyond the article to do more research. It would not take much amending to provide a comprehensive explanation e.g. 'After Tyson's win, he [Tyson] refused to defend against Lewis opting instead for the bigger box office potential of facing Evander Holyfield, and the WBC title was declared vacant.

Just an idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.135.28.86 (talk) 11:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)