Talk:Lembit Öpik

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Contents 1 vandalism? 2 Misc 3 Shadow? 4 Siblings 5 Asteroids 6 Relationshops 7 WikiProject class rating 8 Recent changes 9 WTF?

[edit] vandalism?

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I doubt he is knows as "the tosser" or was voted gay parliamentarian of the year 4 years running, seen as he has some fairly public straight relationships? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.72.69 (talk) 15:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Misc

• WHO PUT HE ASSUMED OFFICE IN MARCH 2006? JUST BECAUSE MING BECOME LEADER ON THAT DATE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHEN HE CAME INTO OFFICE. HE WAS WALES AND NI SPOKESMAN FOR SOMETIME BEFORE.*

Can someone link in this artical: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23392706-details/Lembit+and+his+very+cheeky+family/article.do which shows some of his family...

Why don't you do it? Biscit (talk) 14:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shadow?

... and point out this as the House of Commons website shows he IS the shadow secretary of state for Wales and N.I.

If he's a Lib Dem, he's not a shadow secretary of state for anything.

He'd be Lib Dem spokesman for NI and Wales...

Incorrect. While the Lib Dems aren't officially the opposition, they have decided that their spokesmen now form a 'Shadow Cabinet' as part of their campaign that they are the 'Real Alternative'. Therefore his official title is Shadow Secretary of State.

Which is exactly why we shouldn't report it in this manner. Shadow has always previously meant the largest opposition party. The Lib dems have been trying to use that title to which they have no historic right as a political tool. Wiki, unless it explains that this use is disputed (and it is by both Tory and Labour) we are taking sides. Alci12 23:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

He is the Lib Dem shadow secretary, you will find the House of Commons website slightly more accuarte and impartial that wikipedia http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/libdems.cfm and the this move had nothing to do with the real oppostion campaign which was the sloggan for the 2005 GE.

[edit] Siblings

Lembit was devastated by his brother Endel's death, and made a point of giving a eulogy in Parliament. The family was very close. So listing his sister and brother is highly relevant IMO, and would be good to keep in future revisions. (I mentioned this article to Lembit at the wake - Endel was a friend of mine as well - and Lembit and Urve were both very pleased with the idea :-) - David Gerard 21:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Asteroids

Although the last addition was silly, does anyone care to add something about Öpik's concern about the planet being hit by an asteroid? (And if he's backing the planet then it probably is doomed!) Timrollpickering 09:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relationshops

Can someone put in somethign about the fact he isn't engaged anymore and is going out with the singer from the cheeky girls (as reported on bbc news on sunday 17th dec 2006) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.71.60.100 (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent changes

I've removed a few irrelevant sections, tied it up a bit, included a section about the WLD and included a few more references. Qwerty1985 (talk) 15:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted back to listing him as a member of the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHADOW CABINET, as that is how the UK Parliament website describes them. Don't change it back anyone - if you disagree we can take it to the mods 10:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

dito Qwerty1985 (talk) 16:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The use of the term "shadow" for the lead spokespersons is contentious. Note that there isn't an article Liberal Democrat Shadow Cabinet - it instead goes to Liberal Democrat Frontbench Team - and even the current acting leader Vincent Cable is described as "Lib Dem Treasury Spokesman" (on his infobox and navbox) and "the Liberal Democrats' main economic spokesperson" (in the intro), not "Shadow Chancellor" or "Anti-Shadow Chancellor" or "Shadow Chancellor from Twickenham" (the latter two arise from that ultra rare thing, a joke by Gordon Brown). Timrollpickering (talk) 01:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTF?

Öpik's parents were from Estonia. He would most like to play golf with Malcolm Sawkins settled in Northern Ireland.

What on Earth does this mean? Is it Estonian translated through babelfish a few times? This "article" is garbage. Typical wikiality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.142.132 (talk) 22:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)