User talk:Legalist

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Hello, Legalist.

I'm afraid I couldn't work out your point at "Requests for Comment". Can you perhaps explain what you are getting at? You can answer here on this page, which is on my watchlist. I probably won't be able to help, myself, but at least I can try to point you to the right venue to raise your concerns. AndyJones 13:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

certainly, my apologies, that seemed to be the relevant page. the edits I have drawn attention to have all been secreted into articles ranging from the annhialation of the Tasmanian Aborigine to European and American court cases involving sexual matters. The editor, Mbarry, has also accessed sites involved with the Kenja Communication Group.

The group's leader faces 22 charges of sexual misconduct with two minors.

Thier defence appears to rely on declaring the charges part of a 'witchhunt'. The group has had an associate member produce a report which they are marketing as 'independent', which claims to examine 'the misuse of allegations of a sexual nature, and the ugly legal ramifications' involved. ( they did the same thing in a previous court case with a published book, 'Our Australian Freedoms are Under Threat', which was supposedly independent, but was also authored by Kenja members). the article is being secreted into wikipedia articles which involve historical injustices by the police, the courts and the media.

this appears to be a subversive move to give credibility to thier 'independent report', and help them build a credible case for being the subject of a 'witchhunt'. Thier strategy seems to be to draw various peoples attention to the articles, and having them draw comparisons with the groups contemporary situation, helping develop thier defence story. By enlarging the issue to make it a great injustice against society they hope to garner support from political quaters, as well as academic support and assistance from the genral community. They seem to present it to followers as proof of a 'conspiracy' to 'get' the group.

it seems to me there is no witch hunt, just two young girls bringing charges before the courts. But that is irrelevant, this seems to be a misuse of the encyclopedia, and introduces biased and slanted information into the site for personal gain.

as this group is a Scientology off shoot, with the leader being a Scientologist of 11 years standing, they should be treated witht the same respect for honesty as shown the Scientologists. ie; they should be allowed to present thier version of events, but it must be viewed with the material and information as published in the Australian Media, Parlimentary documentation and through articles written by leading Academics, which appear to have thier links removed in edits by 'MBarry'.I would appreciate your adviceLegalist 03:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks. Yes, you seem to be dealing with the matter quite vigorously, it it looks as if none of the edits you object to are on the page any longer. If the dispute erupts we can put the matter onto RfC. For the moment, I think you are right to raise your concerns on the article's talk page. AndyJones 15:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks Andy, I have had the opportunity to read the pdf file which purports to be an independent report into 'child molestation charges'. the author is a criminologist, and seems to have prepared a hastily written paper for the group. It references an article embedded into the wikipedia site, as now do many other articles within wikipedia reference it. this appears to be thier marketing program. The fellow who embedded the links to the report also has tampered with kenja communication pages. The 'Kenja group' is described as a case study in the report, but it is in fact the final chapter in a series of misleading and clever PR exercise's which attempt to put the case that the group is unfairly targeted. there is very little research that has not been unearthed by the Kenja Group itself, and anyone familiar with thier defence strategies will find it all too familiar.Legalist 04:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)