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[edit] C.R. 1 gaps

There are gaps in this route description from:

Wyoming to Minn 23 just south of Hinckley (presumably I-35);
From Moose Lake north (I-35 again?); and
Duluth to Canadian border (U.S. 61 again).

Is this correct? Kablammo 01:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The gaps where Mn/DOT does not call it CR 1 are as follows:

  • I-35, exits 12 to 56
  • TH 60 and TH 21 in Faribault
  • I-35, exits 135 to 159
  • TH 70 in Rock Creek
  • I-35, exits 165 to 191
  • I-35, exits 195 to 214
  • TH 27 in Moose Lake
  • I-35, exits 216 to 235
  • I-35, exit 239 to Duluth

There are also gaps through St. Paul and Duluth, filled in 1933 by LR 102 and LR 103. --NE2 02:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some notes

I just found [1], which shows that all routes are clearly defined, even on overlaps. (It also answers a few questions and may raise a few.) After seeing that, I'm not sure if the table, which would increase in complexity, is a good idea. The highway to route mapping could be in the articles about the highways, and, in the other direction, routes 1-70 were actually signed, and so those numbers that weren't kept probably merit a separate article or a merge into another, and routes greater than 70 mostly became one highway, at least at first. Below I'll work on a list of these original numbers. --NE2 07:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

You already mentioned that you found some overlaps. I wanted to point out that MnDOT sent me an excel spreadsheet dated 2002 that actually had several cases of overlap...where there were multiple legislative/constitutional routes on a given stretch of highway. IIRC, there were a few segments that had 4 or 5 LR/CRs on them. Am waiting on a reply from MnDOT about a more recent status than 2002. Ajfroggie (talk) 21:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

After making the list, I find that my suspicions were correct, and most can be covered under one route. The following may have issues:

  • 80: now TH 16
  • 83: now TH 68
  • 85: then TH 60 and TH 73, but now all TH 60
  • 88: TH 39 and TH 73 (TH 39 is best)
  • 98: now US 8
  • 110: US 169 and TH 47 (TH 47 is best)
  • 117: TH 13 and TH 100 (TH 13 is best)
  • 122: TH 111 and US 14 (TH 111 is best)
  • 140: now TH 172
  • 144: TH 119, TH 40, and TH 73 (TH 119 is best)
  • 162: now TH 200
  • 168: now TH 200
  • 171: now TH 171
  • 181: TH 108 and TH 78 (TH 108 is best)
  • 185: now mostly TH 123
  • 195: now US 69
  • 209: now TH 25
  • 210: now TH 9
  • Duluth and Twin Cities routes

The following probably do have issues:

  • 116
  • 127

[edit] List of original numbers

LR TH
71 TH 27
72 TH 72
73 TH 60
74 TH 74
75 TH 43
76 TH 76
77 TH 30
78 TH 43
79 TH 139
80 TH 80
81 TH 56
82 TH 30
83 TH 83
84 TH 4
85 TH 60, TH 73
86 TH 86
87 TH 22
88 TH 39, TH 73
89 TH 47
90 TH 19
91 TH 91
92 TH 47
93 TH 93
94 TH 94
95 TH 95
96 TH 96
97 TH 97
98 TH 98
99 TH 99
100 TH 19
101 TH 165
102 Twin Cities
103 Duluth
104 Twin Cities
105 Twin Cities
106 Duluth
107 Twin Cities
108 Twin Cities
109 Twin Cities
110 TH 47, US 169, Twin Cities
111 Twin Cities
112 Twin Cities
113 Twin Cities
114 Twin Cities
115 US 218, Twin Cities
116 TH 56, TH 55, US 52, Twin Cities
117 TH 13, TH 100
118 TH 36, Twin Cities
119 TH 7
120 TH 110
121 TH 5
122 TH 111, US 14
123 TH 112
124 TH 109
125 TH 51
126 TH 49
127 Never built?
128 TH 57
129 TH 152
130 TH 100
131 TH 115
132 TH 95
133 TH 70
134 TH 107
135 TH 27
136 TH 89
137 TH 6
138 TH 85
139 TH 84
140 TH 72
141 US 71
142 TH 55
143 TH 104
144 TH 119, TH 40, TH 73
145 TH 40
146 TH 17
147 TH 7
148 TH 103
149 US 12
150 TH 4
151 TH 15
152 TH 9
153 US 52
154 TH 68
155 US 212
156 TH 56
157 TH 18
158 TH 11
159 TH 65
160 TH 1
161 US 63
162 TH 34
163 TH 63
164 TH 33
165 TH 46
166 TH 1
167 TH 169
168 TH 92, TH 31
169 TH 92
170 TH 1
171 TH 73
172 TH 11
173 TH 1
174 TH 73
175 TH 81
176 TH 116
177 TH 32
178 TH 102
179 TH 82
180 TH 78
181 TH 108, TH 78
182 TH 34
183 TH 3
184 TH 106
185 TH 23
186 TH 66
187 TH 101
188 TH 55
189 TH 118
190 TH 27
191 TH 117
192 TH 48
193 TH 64
194 TH 13
195 TH 13
196 TH 38
197 TH 87
198 TH 26
199 TH 105
200 TH 112
201 TH 83
202 TH 37
203 US 2
204 TH 69
205 TH 27
206 TH 108
207 TH 87
208 TH 114
209 TH 218
210 TH 23
211 TH 82

[edit] Later additions