Talk:Leap of Faith (film)

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[edit] Trivia/John Newton

JJay removed the trivia bit concerning the Jack Newton/John Newton connection on the grounds that there is "no apparent connection"; note that the article on the name John lists "Jack" as a common diminutive form and that the article on the name Jack lists its origin as a nickname for "John" or "Jacob", with the statement "native speakers of English would almost certainly associate the name "Jack" with "John"". The frequency with which the forms are interchanged in English (e.g., a famous person such as John F. Kennedy can just as easily be recognized when referred to as "Jack Kennedy") seems to make this objection moot. Ubernostrum 20:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

• With all due respect, your argument seems to me to be a bit of a stretch. Leap of Faith is a film about an evangelical con man. John Newton was an apparently upstanding 18th century clergyman. Frankly, I just don't see any evidence of a connection. In addition, if there is a connection to John Newton, how do you know that it is not to one of the many other John Newtons listed at John Newton (disambiguation)? Or for that matter, why not discuss the real Jack Newton? As much as I like trivia, I don't think the Jack Newton/John Newton info belongs here. --JJay 21:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

While I don't have a source to back it up, the parallel between con man who has a religious experience and quits his ways (the film) and slave trader who has a religious experience and quits his ways (John Newton) seems like a trivia-worthy coincidence regardless of intent. Ubernostrum 22:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well when you put it like that, I guess you could make a connection. It would be better, though, if there was some evidence that the screenwriter choose the name for that reason, because it could just be a coincidence. --JJay 23:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)