Talk:Leader of the Opposition
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This is no longer structured like a disambiguation page. I suggest removing the disamb template. Any objections? -- SteinbDJ · talk · contributions 12:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- Assuming that most of the links to this page are referring more specifically to one of the entries on the page, instead of being general references, I think this makes more sense as a dab. The links seem to indicate that there are better targets for most of the things here, and the links shouldn't be in a "See also" section because the things listed could quite conceivably all be referred to as "Leader of the Opposition" without a specific place name attached. I think dab cleanup would be better than removing the tag. Dekimasuよ! 14:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've been working through the links. Perhaps 40% of them have a more specific link to which they could be directed. More than half, however, do not. Some of those refer to specific opposition leaders for whom no page exists and some refer to the concept in general. Since the general concept "Leader of the Opposition" has a meaning in a general parliamentary sense, I think this page should be a legitimate link target. -- SteinbDJ · talk · contributions 14:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- By my estimation, the remaining 70 or so links (so I guess my numbers above were a little off) have no better page than this one to be directed to. About 1/3 deal with the concept of "Leader of the Opposition" in general. The rest deal with specific parliaments (Cayman Islands, Trinidad, Ghana, Alberta, New South Wales, and a few others) that don't have specific pages for their opposition leaders. -- SteinbDJ · talk · contributions 15:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
- So about 80% of the original links had valid targets, then. Would it make sense to add redlinks for the opposition leaders of countries that don't have articles? I understand that there's a difference in influence between an opposition leader of the UK and an opposition leader of the Cayman Islands, but they must both be notable. It would also be an option to delink the ones that just intend the concept of "Leader of the Opposition" in general. I'm not strictly opposed to removing the tag, but I'm wondering what else can be said about the term here that's not just a definition - i.e., beyond saying that the Leader of the Opposition is the leader of the opposition party/parties in a parliament. Dekimasuよ! 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Rather than adding a bunch of redlinks, I'd be inclined to point the remaining links to Official Opposition. You're right that there's not much to say about the concept of Leader of the Opposition in general and that article covers it. Then this page could revert to true dab status. Thoughts? -- SteinbDJ · talk · contributions 12:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Looking through the remaining links, Opposition (parliamentary) (the page Official Opposition targets) seems like a reasonable place to point those links. Sounds like a plan. Dekimasuよ! 03:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- Rather than adding a bunch of redlinks, I'd be inclined to point the remaining links to Official Opposition. You're right that there's not much to say about the concept of Leader of the Opposition in general and that article covers it. Then this page could revert to true dab status. Thoughts? -- SteinbDJ · talk · contributions 12:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- So about 80% of the original links had valid targets, then. Would it make sense to add redlinks for the opposition leaders of countries that don't have articles? I understand that there's a difference in influence between an opposition leader of the UK and an opposition leader of the Cayman Islands, but they must both be notable. It would also be an option to delink the ones that just intend the concept of "Leader of the Opposition" in general. I'm not strictly opposed to removing the tag, but I'm wondering what else can be said about the term here that's not just a definition - i.e., beyond saying that the Leader of the Opposition is the leader of the opposition party/parties in a parliament. Dekimasuよ! 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
