User talk:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles/Archive 7

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Contents 1 User talk:Mick&Jake 2 Hey! 3 WMDs in Iraq 4 About Deletion 5 Jayne Mansfield in popular culture 6 Thank You 7 AfD nomination of The Poughkeepsie Tapes 8 Thank You! ^_^ 9 Deletion review on Raccoon Police Department 10 Thanks but... 11 Parma, Ohio 12 Thank You! :) 13 I have nominated you for adminship 14 Area 51 in pop culture 15 Frank West (Dead Rising) 16 Thank you for your welcome note. 17 RfA thanks 18 Sadism and masochism in fiction 19 Caleb_Guillotte 20 Joyeux Noël! 21 huh? what art page edit? 22 Merry Christmas 23 Can't email you 24 Thanks for your help 25 Merry Christmas 26 Thanks for the welcome

User talk:Mick&Jake

I would suggest to actually look into user cotributions before you greet them cordially. `'Míkka>t 23:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I've been using this to greet people, but I see where you're coming from. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey!

Just been busy with school and what not and thought it was about time for a small wikibreak anyway. Wont be as active as before, but I'll be here :D Corpx (talk) 08:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Corpx, I'm happy that it was nothing bad and after all, school should always come before volunteer efforts. I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 08:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

WMDs in Iraq

Well I did contribute a lot to that article in part to find an answer to that question, and I think as of now the public does not have enough information to conclusively assert what happened to them, except to say that the program stopped in 1994, and perhaps Saddam was either lied to, or knew he didn't have WMD's and used the threat of them to protect himself from being overthrown. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you think we (I'm American, and I apologize if the "we" is not right here) were lied to or do you think our government seriously believed that he had them? Do you think that the war was really about WMDs or was that deception? Thanks for the reply! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

not that this is the place for this discussion, but I would word it as their being irresponsible enough not to care whether or not it was true. 04:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a question that I increasingly wonder when teaching current events to my students. We're at the end of Western Civilization II this month and obviously I want to conclude by commenting on the current state of things. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I think its pretty clear on that point that many outside the US felt he has WMD's; just a few days ago in fact, someone noted how Bill Clinton had said he was surprised that their weren't any WMD's because he and his government had acted under that assumption, so it was probably a massive intelligence failure IMO, but like I noted above, there seems to be a lack of clarify exactly how that occured; did Saddam know and pretend he did, did his generals and scientists lie to him about Iraqs capabilities, did Iraqi resistance people in the West inflate their capabilities so we would take Saddam out, etc. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. A number of students are convinced that it was all about oil, but the way gasoline prices keep skyrocketing, it is hard to imagine we accomplished anything in that regard. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

About Deletion

I feel I should explain my position on this subject lest you get the wrong impression. As crazy as it may sound, I am not a deletionist :) I have been in favor of merging and redirecting content, but I, like several other Wikipedians I know, have grown very frustrated with that process. First of all, it is glacial, and it is also filled with people willing to abstruct article combination. Also, unless well guarded, you can have a huge discussion, achieve consensus, and people just bring the articles back! I really do wish someone would create "Articles for redirection" process so that it would not be so easy to undue a consensus to merge and redirect.

By the way, Judge is my middle name :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply and clarification. (My middle name is Donald incidentally) My major concerns with deleting articles are that 1) doing so fails to accomplish the founder's desire to create "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge" and 2) we wind up discouraging editors and readers from continuing to edit and read by destroying their work and points of reference. I suppose it is personally frustrating to work on something or fine an article helpful as a reference and to have maybe only a half a dozen or so of thousands of editors decide it should be deleted and then it is gone. Also, my personality is one of open-mindedness, maybe that is from teaching such a diverse crowd of students every quarter, and while there are many articles that I may never read or have any desire to edit, I would not want to take away from material and editing experience of others. I believe that we should accomodate our fellow editors and readers and that so long as the articles are not copyright violations, personal attacks, or hoaxes, we should be tolerant of them. Plus, the way the guidelines themselves are edited and therefore changed practically daily makes it hard to want to cite them for much, because at the time at which one cites a guideline, someone may have come along and changed it before anyone else reads that argument. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 22:01, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't the place for every article ever. I still don't understand why you find that so hard to believe. Just because a lot of people work on 1 article, doesn't make it an article that is forever on this site. There is guidelines and policies in place for good reason, and they aren't all just changed daily as you claim. You act as Wikipedia should be the only place people can find knowledge: and that's narrow minded. There is many other sites out there that people do indeed visit. Why exactly should this be the only place people visit? I don't see anything about Wikipedia's goal being anything such as "We must be the best and only online encyclopedia with anything and everything people create". This website isn't an anarchy, and never will be. It would be madness if there was no deletion policies (besides what you mentioned: hoaxes, copyright violations and personal attacks). Understand and accept the policies, instead of ignoring them. The main ones I strongly feel you need to learn are: consensus can change (just because it was kept once, doesn't mean it will be kept instantly again), as well as: notability (not every aspect of a notable subject must have an article here), as well as assume good faith (due to that nonsense where you claimed I was a sockpuppet of another with a similar editing style). RobJ1981 (talk) 06:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

It's also necessary to remember that not everything that fails to interest oneself is necessarily non-notable. And that this is intended to be a comprehensive encyclopedia. DGG (talk) 09:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Good points, DGG. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Jayne Mansfield in popular culture

Dear Sir

I feel I have to be formal with such a name :-)

Can we delete the {{rescue}} tag from Jayne Mansfield in popular culture now. I think it's been well rescued, don't you? Regards, — Becksguy 18:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Becksguy, thank you for the question. If it has been, then by all means, and you do not need to call me "sir", although I appreciate the effort! :) Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome message. Thingg 23:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and happy editing! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind posting on my talk page. Bearian 20:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and I again offer my condolences. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The Poughkeepsie Tapes

An article that you have been involved in editing, The Poughkeepsie Tapes, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Poughkeepsie Tapes (2nd nomination). Thank you. Pleasantville (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank You! ^_^

Thanks for the warm welcoming message I got from you! I really appreciate it! ^_^ Ryou-kun16 (talk) 19:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and happy editing! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 19:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion review on Raccoon Police Department

An AfD in which you commented has been brought to Deletion Review, You may wish to comment there. [1] DGG (talk) 09:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, will do. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 17:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but...

I already have an account(tempest115), but thanks for the invitation.--72.75.69.185 (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, have a wonderful weekend! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Parma, Ohio

I responded on Swatjester's page without realizing it. But anyway, I support the addition of the ghost reference. Although somewhat trivial probably, it is nationally referenced and there's no red flags to keep it off the article. Wizardman 06:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Wizardman, thank you for the replies here and on Swatjester's page. I have improved the sections on the Witch Hunt, gas station ghost, popular culture, and references by reorganzing and adding additional references, as well as revising some text. I hope that you like these improvements and thanks again for the time and help in developing this article! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank You! :)

Thank you for the welcome message you left for me. Congrats on all the awards. Also, could you look at my latest edit under video game culture and see if more grammar needs editing on that page under the video game paradox subarticle? I fixed some of the obvious grammar issues since it was a rough translation. Userafw (talk) 04:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and thank you for the nice note! I made some grammar edits to the article that should help you see what kind of changes are still needed. Be sure, for example, to have the punctuation mark precede the reference. The little note number is supposed to the follow the comma or period, not precede it. Also, avoid beginning sentences with "However," when you mean "Nevertheless,". Technically, when "However" comes as the first word in a sentence it means "Whichever." Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 05:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I have nominated you for adminship

Your text is found here. [2]
You have been a friend that is helped to take the right path. This makes you a good person. Please accept my nomination for you. I would be honored if accepted. Thanks and good night. Uckoman (talk) 03:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Uckoman,

I graciously decline on the grounds that it would be a controversial nomination. While I am flattered to have a secret admirer, I wish to avert any possible speculation that you are my sockpuppet. I take it as thanks and really am flattered but wish to distance myself from some of my alleged conduct before attempting to become an administrator. I wish you well in your volunteer work and would not want any untoward suspicions to taint people’s good faith in you later on.

Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Correct move here, Roi (in response to e-mail). Wizardman 03:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Wizardman, thank you for the response! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Area 51 in pop culture

You made a valiant effort, good sir. Bearian (talk) 17:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

we will rescue all these later. for now, I want to concentrate on the new ones as they come DGG (talk) 03:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Whenever I can help, just let me know. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Frank West (Dead Rising)

I noticed your previous defense of the Frank West article, and it needs your help again. TTN and his friends are now attempting to get it merged, even though consensus for a keep was reached on this once before. They have been doing this to alot of articles, or so my research has turned up. The discussion is occuring at the Dead Rising talk page. Smile Lee (talk) 17:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

P.S. He, TTN, has been having an ArbCom located here. Smile Lee (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the notifications. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your welcome note.

I just wanted to say hello and thank you for your welcome note. Please let me know if I can help with anything. --SimpleParadox 18:40, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and happy editing!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 24 support, 3 oppose, and 3 neutral. I promise to work my hardest to improve the Wiki with my new tools.

--Michael Greiner 19:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and congratulations! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 19:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Sadism and masochism in fiction

Thank you for your interest in rescuing the article Sadism and masochism in fiction. Can you please help by citing sources establishing notability for the 50 or so unsourced list items in this article? Also, if possible, please add context and well-sourced critical analysis on this literary subject. Please see Wikipedia:Writing better articles for more hints on how to improve this article. / edg ☺ ☭ 16:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome! I'll see what I can find. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Caleb_Guillotte

Thank you. P.S. Wait awhile, continue to welcome new users, and you, too, may get the mop! Bearian (talk) 22:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and thank you for the kind and constructive advice! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Joyeux Noël!

Merry Christmas, o Great Pumpkin. And thank you for the kind comments.

Vive l'Inclusionnisme! Rhinoracer (talk) 10:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Rhinoracer, thank you for the kind and thoughtful note! Joyeux Noël and Vive l'Inclusionnisme, indeed!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 17:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad! Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 23:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 01:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

huh? what art page edit?

About this:

—.... Thank you for your contributions, such as the one you made in art. I hope you like the place and decide ....

I posted on no art wiki page. So what r u talking about? 70.108.56.92 (talk) 10:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

That is just a welcome message. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Thank you. I would like to wish you and yours the best of the season and a happy new year as well. And, if you're referring to O Holy Night, you're not alone in being very fond of that carol. John Carter (talk) 21:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Merry Christmas and I wish you all the best. Just a side note that Armenians celebrate Christmas on January 6th. VartanM (talk) 21:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

You are both welcome and yes, "O Holy Night" is my favorite song. Also, thank you for the interesting fact about Armenia's Christmas! I did not know that! Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The otters and I wish you a merry Fishmas Christmas too! Ten Pound Hammer and his otters wish you a Merry Fishmas! • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Your nice message is cute and creative!  :) Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 01:53, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the friendly message. You have a very merry Christmas, too. WODUP 02:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:05, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Can't email you

Sorry, I don't have email enabled can it be done just on my talk or somewhere and deleted or what's up? Benjiboi 02:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

It was something to say privately. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

My apologies. I'll see if I can set something up so I can enable email. I might not be able to reply except here, or do we need to talk back and forth? Benjiboi 02:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

It was nothing negative in regards to you; just a clarification of my side of something. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll see if I can link up an email account but is it OK if it's just one email or do we need to talk something back and forth or can I reply here even if the email is offline?

One email would be fine and I would rather keep it off-Wiki (you will understand why when you get the message). Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have set one up and will remove it after receipt, etc etc. You can send me an email now and I will reply here that i have it. Benjiboi 03:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool, message sent.  :) Please only reply by email. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Indent reset. Cheers, message heard and I'll reply here only in generalized terms and speaking to my experience and if anything is useful to your end then learn from my tales of woe! I think documenting the problem is the best way to go. If you haven't asked for help from admins yet it would be good to. Sadly cases like this tend to drag on a bit before being resolved. And really, our goal (just like in school) is to reform those whose behavior is less than ideal into someone who we can get along with even if we don't agree with them. In my short time here I'm stunned how many sock's I've dealt with. The best defense, for me at least, has been to remain stubbornly cheerful and walk away whenever my stress level was getting too high. Also the best defense for AfD is generally good references, even the most stubborn deletionists or vandals have a hard time deleting sourced content. Good content tends to trump most arguments. As for the rescue squad and tags my suggestion would be to keep it all in perspective. If someone removes a tag altogether maybe report that to the Rescue talk page. Some fine articles have been deleted and yes that stinks but they were built once and can be rebuilt. None of them existed at one point and now there are over two million I believe. Assuming the Rescue template survives and is allowed onto mainpage unfettered I hope the rescue squad will be revived a bit and then the volume of articles "saved" can increase a bit. Until then I would focus on ones you really think will be a good match (do we have enough time on the AfD? Do we have 20 or less currently tagged articles? Do we have an active core of users in the project to do anything?) In addition you may want to beef up and expand your reasoning for justifying a keep or delete; more thoughtful comments help peopple slow down and take your words as serious discussion.

I get a little frustrated at the process as I feel AfD is regularly abused so would like some prior steps before an article can be AfD'd but that is a way off, until then fine articles will be deleted and we have to pick and choose which ones we can rescue. When the same user (you or anyone else) regularly states the same thing on AfD I think the admins and other editors kind of tune that out. Right or wrong I think that's what happens.

A possible help could be the Rescue project talk page; perhaps post an article there, "does anyone think this article is worth a rescue tag? If so please add our tag." In any case the work we do is quite thankless at times so let me state outright i very much appreciate all the work you do! And feel free to delete any or all of this as needed! Benjiboi 05:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the thoughtful and constructive reply. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 05:40, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm happy to help as time and energy allow, please feel free to message me anytime as quite a few folks watch my talk as I've had a few devoted "fans" of my work leave interesting comments. Benjiboi 06:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good! Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 06:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

Your contributions to History of clothing and textiles went a long way toward raising it from a stub-class to a start-class article. I'm starting up a newsletter for Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts and the article is mentioned there (although your username isn't, and I'll gladly add it if you like). Here's the draft version. Cheers and happy holidays! Durova^Charge! 05:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and yes, please do add my name!  :) Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 05:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Will do. Might I lure you into joining the project? We could use some extra hands. :) Durova^Charge! 05:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure I would be happy to. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 05:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Your research talents would be a boon to the project. Best regards, Durova^Charge! 05:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome. I have added myself to the list of participants. Regards, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 05:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles/Archive 7! Wishing you a very Merry Christmas! Best regards from myself! -- S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Merry Christmas!) Post this merry message on any other user talk page you can find.

Merci!  :) Sincerement, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your message on my talk page, and a merry christmas to you too! :) Wizardman 04:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:55, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Christmas to you, too. AndyJones (talk) 07:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

"Oh Holy Night" (piano solo)

Nice! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 15:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

• "I intended originally to use my main account primarily for edits to French and pumpkin related articles, but my interests have since expanded greatly." - HAHAHAHA. Hilarious. Merry christmas! Fresheneesz (talk) 09:29, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Indeed! Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 15:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Thanks for the warm welcome you extended to me on Dec 15. You gave me a few resources, which I read, then I discovered your user page has many, many more! I'll come back and mine for gold from time to time.

I do have a question.... If someone like you offers help or an invitation on my user talk page, is it best to respond on my page, or to go to their page? If the latter, how will they know I've responded?

Clippership (talk) 17:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome and I hope you had a nice Christmas! I am also happy that my user page has proven helpful for someone. Anyway, to answer your question, that depends entirely on specific editors. I prefer to continue dialogues on one talk page, rather than going back and forth. Remember, you can add talk pages to your watchlist to see if anyone posted anything new in any given discussions. Again, though, others prefer to to post replies directly on someone else's page to be sure that his or her fellow editor did in fact receive the message. Also, some editors have enabled email, should you ever have a pressing message that you absolutely want to be sure the intended individual read. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)