User talk:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles/Archive 5

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Retirement

I am out of retirement! --Alien joe 19:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I am happy to read that! Happy editing and good luck on your return! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

page

To ask people, especially those whom you have an influence on, to anonymously contribute to one side of an argument on Wikipedia is a major mistake. Please place {{db-userreq}} on the page, and we can make some suggestions first. For example, it would be better to urge them to contribute to relevant articles. DGG

Okay. thanks-DGG. :::You're welcome.

I closed that nowiki tag above.--Chaser - T 20:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Big thanks! I wondered what was up with the signatures not showing up! Sorry to take up your time on the classroom idea; I still think it was a good one and had no intentions of using it as some kind of argument supporter thing, but I'll respect DGG's position. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Merci :)

Thanks for your welcome message :) I already contribute in the french WP (fr:Utilisateur:Balrogou)and I decided to create an account here for my few english contributions. Encore merci pour l'accueil. Balrogou 15:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

De rien! :) Sincerement, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Automated archiving

Hey Roi. Per our email communication, I've setup automated archival on your talk page. The instructions for the archival bot are at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. Cheers!--Chaser - T 22:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Fantastic! Thank you so much! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 14:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome.

I've been doing minor contribs for quite a while, actually, as well as gotten into arguments with others (I don't have the greatest amount of respect for wikityrants.) Thanks for the welcome, though. :) dethtoll 19:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and good luck! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

for the welcome :) I'm sorry it's a bit late. Though I have not checked out the discussion for the welcome templates, I used a similar format on another wiki and there was lots of criticism about the length of the welcome. Indeed, the majority of what is said in the welcome is in Help:Contents, and the initial page when you first sign up.

Anyways, I hope you feel better soon from whatever ailment you are suffering.

--NovaDog 01:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and thanks for the kind note! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 13:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

And, uh, this edit threw the image in the userbox psycho for me. It is now just a thin vertical white line. I am using Firefox. I know you have nothing to do with it but mind checking it out ;) --NovaDog 01:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

For the template question, I would ask the user who created it for more help. You can determine that by checking the page history. Good luck! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 13:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome

Thank you for your welcome, though I won't be active in the English wikipedia, because my written English isn't good enough to make additions to the English Wikipedia. I'm active on the Dutch version. Every now and then I write an article for the Dutch wikipedia and then I want to create links to the same article on other language versions and also the English version. So don't expect more from me than just adding a link to a Dutch article.84.24.138.198 18:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and good luck on the Dutch Wikipedia! Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Football players in war

I think I explained how I closed it as I did; Afd is not a vote count, if it were, you'd be right. But we are guided by WP:OCAT which indicates that these things are not proper, and I carefully considered the keep comments. There seems to be no nexus of football players in war, no article saying why there is anything different about them or that it is a notable intersection, any more than any other group of people in war (dentists, movie stars, politicians, architects). Carlossuarez46 04:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I did carefully consider your explanation, but it just strikes me as a no consensus in that a good deal of editors were not persuaded by the reasons to delete it. Again, I absolutely would not argue that the result was keep, but it just struck me as if no agreement had been reached in the end. Thank you for the reply, though. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 04:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Bye

Thanks for telling me that. Goodbye. --Alien joe 20:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and I sincerely wish you all the best in the future. Have a wonderful weekend! --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome messages

Hi Great King of Pumpkins. I noticed that you have recently welcomed many new users. While this is of course appreciated, it may be better to welcome only the new users you happen to stumble upon, and not to go actively looking for them. It's even better to also send a "personalised" welcome message (such as thank you for your contributions to article X) in addition to the template. This is why we don't use bots to post welcome messages, because it is less personal. There's lots of other work to do around the wiki, so it may be a better idea to spend your time on writing articles or on other maintenance jobs than on welcoming new users who haven't made any edits yet. Just a piece of advice :-) Melsaran (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the note. I joined the Welcoming Committee a short while back and mainly use the User creation log to welcome users in addition to welcoming users on articles I have posted on my watchlist. I can of course increase my article improvement efforts as well. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

References in Charon in popular culture

The references you added do not appear to be inline. Artw 21:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Artw, I had to be quick with my edits today, as I was preparing for my class (met at 5:30 PM). Anyway, I wanted to add the links there for someone to place whereever appropriate. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Thanks, this is User:Dante Alighieri, I just sometimes forget to sign-in before I edit from this IP. ;) --69.12.157.118 18:14, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, have a great day! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 18:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I had edited the "Sunset District", San Francisco, CA page as of September 6, 2007. You removed my edits. It was my first edit. I do appreciate all constructive "builds" on Wikipedia as helpful to the process, and need to learn more. But just to clarify, any long-time San Franciscan will generally note that our famous fog isn't quite what it used to be. It's not as much of a presence in recent summers. I said "appeared", although maybe that isn't the best way to describe it. In the page, I think you may find a number of subjective statements that are essentially opinions. And we all see the effects of a warming climate almost everywhere. So perhaps I could get some references if I try, but meanwhile, would you consider restoring some of my edits in a modified format? If not, why not? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.173.145 (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, which edits are you referring to? If you ever disagree with someone's edits of your edits, you're allowed to revert back to your version which an explanation in the edit summary indicating why. I hope that helps. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Social Parking

Thank you for providing your support for Social Parking. Much appreciated. -IDNexpert —Preceding unsigned comment added by IDNexpert (talk • contribs) 00:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome!  :) All the best! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Cleanup Project is NOT just for nuking

It's for cleaning articles, and when needed: deleting them. I take offense to the note on your user page, as my opinion isn't that of the whole project. I'm one user of the project: that doesn't mean my view controls the project. I think people are being paranoid and assuming the project is for killing all trivia articles, when that's not even close to being right. You didn't mention my name in the note: however it's implied as I'm a member of the project and I've nominated numerous pop culture articles. Perhaps other members have nominated as well (I don't know the member list that well), but in any event: the note is immature and just a false accustation. We don't get together and say "go nominate all the pop culture articles" or anything like that. RobJ1981 04:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Rob, please remember to assume good faith. If you looked carefully at how I had that item listed, you would notice that I was quoting someone with that description. Notice how it was (see below) in something titled "Things Durova suggested I look at In an email of Sat, 1 Sep 2007: a WikiProject dedicated to nuking the "in popular culture" articles", i.e. that is how a fellow editor described the project and not how I did. I am of course extremely disappointed by all the nominations against "in popular culture" articles and I really wish more time was spent improving articles than trying to delete others work. It is tragic that on a non-paper encyclopedia so many articles would get deleted or proposed to be deleted rather than improved, especially these particular kinds of articles for which I often find reliable sources for with relative ease. In any event, I am, however, happy to remove that particular suggestion from my user page. Have a nice night! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 04:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Stop stalking me in AFDs

I highly doubt you just search AFDs to vote in. I think it's a bit obvious you are stalking every AFD I create and post in. This is immature and not needed. I could be wrong, but it doesn't look that way to me. RobJ1981 04:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Rob, yes, you are wrong, I post in lots of AfDs that you have not created: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], etc. Both you and I seem to post in the "in popular culture" ones. Please remember to assume good faith and not make inaccurate allegations. You have posted a number of increasing incivil or accusatory messages to my talk page: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13]. Considering that you have posted after me in a few AfDs, [14], [15], [16], [17], etc. and that I have NOT participated in every AfD you created, such as this one Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Player's_Choice_titles_unavailable_on_the_Virtual_Console, I again urge you reconsider your allegations. I am happy to discuss with you in a civil and constructive manner. Please extend the same courtesy. If you are unwilling to do so, then I ask that you refrain from making false and unconstructive allegations. Thank you and have a pleasant night. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 04:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Roi, looking at the last 8 AFDs Robj has created (going back to mid-September), you've participated in all but one. This isn't wikistalking, as Wikipedia so narrowly defines it: following someone's contribution logs with the intent to harass them. However, it is making Robj understandably apprehensive. I suggest that if you are following him around to discover these pop culture AFDs, then you should stop. I understand that you feel passionate about the AFDs, but no one is the last defender of the wiki, and the community can generally be trusted to come to the right conclusion in a deletion discussion. If you just stumble upon these AFDs, I suggest you check who has already participated in them before you do so yourself. Avoiding certain individuals is the easiest way to avoid conflict with them. Robj, to a certain extent, I extend the same suggestion to you. After posting this message, you participated in two AFDs Roi had already participated in [18] [19]. I'm not sure what your own definition of stalking is, but I hope you're applying it to yourself, as well.--Chaser - T 05:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear Chaser, I am looking at AfDs and participating in "in popular culture" ones as well as multiple random other ones that have articles that I think I can improve. If you notice my contribs, for most of the AfDs I participate in, I also spend a good deal of time searching for references for those articles as well. I am NOT doing so because it's Rob who created them, but because of the articles themselves, it just happens that most of those Rob creates are "in popular culture" articles. It's nothing against him personally, and as I indicate above, I also participate in various other ones that are not in popular culture articles and that Rob has not created. Anyway, though, I'm working now to expand an article, so maybe that will be more rewarding. Thank you for the feedback and suggestion. Your friend, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Roi, how do you find those AFDs?--Chaser - T 06:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion and look for new ones that concern articles I think I can improve. So, for example, I'll go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2007_October_1 and will notice something like this and post my opinion and then or before posting my opinion see if I can find sources: [20] and [21]. Regards, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Then I reiterate my suggestion: avoid Robj1981 to avoid conflict with him.--Chaser - T 06:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not unwilling to do so, if that's what you want, but again, I should be able to participate in the "in popular culture" discussions regardless of who created at least those ones, because as I indicate above, I am not posting because it's Rob who nominates some of those discussions. As you'll notice in quite a few of those discussions, my comments have influenced some other editors to want to "keep" certain articles and again, I spent a good deal of time searching for references for them, too. I know I'm not the last defender of Wikipedia, but I have made a lot of positive contributions to those discussions lately and it would be unfortunate for the one person to suddenly accuse me of something today to "ruin it" for me when I mean well. I can of course make it a point to avoid certain other ones he creates, but it wouldn't be fair if say he nominates something I feel strongly about and then I have to sit it out, because he alleged something against me that is not true. Again, when you consider all of the positive stuff: [22], [23], [24], [25], [26] and [27], I'd really hate for the one overtly negative above from someone who has criticized me for months ([28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33], [34], [35]) to make things more difficult for me. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest this as a compromise option. Participate in those AFDs that you feel strongly about and for which you are actively improving the article with references and rewriting. Avoid Rob in the rest.--Chaser - T 07:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

That seems perfectly reasonable. Good night! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 07:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I have to say that I also participate in almost all popular culture related AfDs, and i find them the same way I find everything else, by working systematically through the complete list every day, as I have been doing for many months. And I think Robj does the like. I think it totally right that anyone should do this. when people take strong opposite views on the same subject they will run into conflct. what is necessary is for everyone to carefully avoid commenting on each other individually and keep to the arguments for the particular article involved. And of course to avoid commenting just to say me too, or give a stereotyped response. At many places in AfD similar things happen, like high schools, and everyone usually keeps polite and accepts that the views will differ. DGG (talk) 14:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the comments. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 17:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Re Ducttape01

He doesn't seem to have edited after your warning. I'd wait a bit and monitor his contributions; if he continues vandalizing that article or begins on others, escalate the warnings. If he vandalizes after receiving a vandalism4 or other final warning, report him to WP:AIV. (Some admins will not block anyone who hasn't received a final warning.) You may also want to hold off on welcoming users until you see what their intentions are . :-) Deor 19:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the fast reply! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving from Chaser's talk page

Dear Deor, the articles I referenced discussed "Molecular Static", which seems to be used as a noun. Regards, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No, in the title of the abstract you've linked to, static (like the parallel dynamic) modifies analyses. The reference is to molecular analyses both static and dynamic in nature. If further discussion is necessary, let's keep it on our own talk pages, not on Chaser's, where it doesn't belong. Deor 19:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah, okay, I see. I initially read it as two separate phrases. OKay, then. By the way, I posted a question on your talk page about vandalism fighting. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 19:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I see you all have resolved this without my intervention. Great! I can't help but think, though, that a note to Roi's talk page would have done the trick from the beginning.--chaser - t 19:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the kind welcome! The Quiet Man 19:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome and happy editing! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

User Page Reverts

Why are my user page edits being reverted? If you know... Earth to McFly 22:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but you need to ask User:NovaDog as he is the one reverting them. If you think it is vandalism, please report it to an admin at an appropriate reporting place: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR, Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, or Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents depending on the nature of the edits. It's always best to discuss civily with the other editor first and if you think there's a larger problem then request administrator intervention. Remember as well if it may concern a policy you don't understand, you can also ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. I hope that helps. :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 22:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
This is good advice.--chaser - t 19:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 20:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Policy on removing own material

Hi Friend and thanks for the welcome , cant find anything on the policy of removing your own edits , that is, some unfriendly folk may wish to "parasite" a substantial contribution I made , I would like to correctly remove it on the basis of it being my own edits or work ,could you point me in the right direction , thank you --202.63.42.221 07:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello! If it's your own edit, you can always just "undo" it or revert (depending if others have edited after you) or just cut it from the article and indicate in the edit summary that you are removing something you added. If someone questions you, just dicuss civily with them why you removed your earlier edit. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 17:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

re:Welcome

No thanks. I'm already an editor, I am using my ip to avoid backlash while commenting on User:Prester John, whom is an editor which I do not want harassing my real account.--71.141.106.98 17:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, take care. --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 17:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey. I'm just popping in to say thanks for your use of "Best", "Sincerely" and the like. Not only is that simply polite, it's the little touches that remind us of the easily forgotten but vital fact that there are humans on the other end of the network cable, and such little touches often have large results. In addition, the endings remind people that the written word is the written word, not a deficient substitute for the spoken word as it's commonly used as online. Thank you. --Kizor 00:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Kizor, you are welcome and thank you for the kind note as well. I greatly appreciate reading such a positive and thoughtful message! Editors like yourself who take the time to write such kind messages really help to make the project worthwhile. I hope you are having a wonderful week!  :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 00:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Bearian'sBooties

Hi and thanks for the welcome. I'm User:Bearian's legal sock-puppet. Bearian'sBooties 02:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! All the best! --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Refs and links

For Godzilla, please enter books and book chapters and journal articles as references to specific parts of the article, rather than as external links. If they're general, do it to the lede paragraph. I moved the first of them as an example of format. DGG (talk) 07:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear DGG, Thank you for the suggestion! I may be a bit busy this week, though, as I have a couple lectures and a significant meeting. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 07:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

My User: Subpages

re: this question. Yes, definitely, edit away at anything you see there. Might be a good idea to add comments of your own to the table at User:AndyJones/Deleted trivia if the status of a page chages for the better. AndyJones 12:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the reply. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The Herbert Dingle article and vandalism

Thanks for your message. I do actually have a problem. I'm trying to write a factual article about Herbert Dingle and a vandal called DVdm keeps removing the important ingredients. Can you please look at my latest reversion. That is the way that I believe it should be. It is clear, interesting, and doesn't advocate either a pro- or anti POV as regards the controversy.

DVdm on the other hand wants to replace it with a less coherent version which states that Dingle was wrong and which waters down the details of the controversy. I'd be grateful if you would keep an eye on the article. (Brigadier Armstrong 16:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC))

Sure, I'll look it over. One thing to keep in mind is to always be sure you have reliable references provided so that no one can justifiably challenge your edits as biased or unfounded. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've seen now what you've done. You've put a reference beside the relevant phrase on the introduction line. Thank you very much indeed.(Brigadier Armstrong 16:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC))

You're welcome! :) Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:47, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Somebody has reverted it already. It will surely be DVdm using an anonymous IP server. (Brigadier Armstrong 16:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC))

Try to discuss the reverts civily with DVdm or the anonymous IP. If that doesn't work then perhaps consider first, a third opinion and second a request for comment: Wikipedia:Requests for comment as a means of resolving the dispute. Please read the instructions on those pages carefully to determine the appropriate option and the right way to make the request. Always, be sure to remain civil. Again, good luck! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 16:57, 10 October 2007 (UTC)