Talk:Lawrence Oates
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I believe it's "Lawrence Oates" rather than "Laurence Oates". A google search seemed to confirm many more hits for "Lawrence" and Huntford in "The Last Place on Earth" spells it Lawrence.No Guru 07:47, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I think the quote is "I am just going outside and may be some time."
from Scott's Last Expedition by Robert Falcon Scott:
Friday, March 16, or Saturday, 17 [1912]. Lost track of dates, but think the last correct. Tragedy all down the line. At lunch, the day before yesterday, poor Titus Oates said he couldn't go on; he proposed we should leave him in his sleeping bag. That we could not do, and we induced him to come on, on the afternoon march. In spite of its awful nature for him he struggled on and we made a few miles. At night he was worse and we knew the end had come.
Should this be found I want these facts recorded ... We can testify to his bravery. He has borne intense suffering for weeks without complaint, and to the very last was able and willing to discuss outside subjects. He did not--would not--give up hope till the very end ... He slept through the night before last, hoping not to wake; but he woke in the morning--yesterday. It was blowing a blizzard. He said, "I am just going outside and may be some time." He went out into the blizzard and we have not seen him since ... We knew that poor Oates was walking to his death, but though we tried to dissuade him, we knew it was the act of a brave man and an English gentleman. We all hope to meet the end with a similar spirit, and assuredly the end is not far. Mark Richards 18:43, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
- BTW where does the monacre 'Titus' come from? Mark Richards 18:43, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Who Titus Oates?
Titus Oates Infamous figure in Britain's history of patriotism and the National Good. Plutonium27 13:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
A poignant story. Ground 03:02, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I've removed the claims that Oates was a last-minute addition to the polar party, and that he was less experienced than the others. It was Henry Robertson Bowers who was the last-minute addition to the party, and Bowers (who was an officer in the Indian Navy) had no more polar experience than Oates did before joining Scott's expedition. Dr.frog 23:33, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
The photo in this article is of Dr Wilson - Oates is at the far left in the famous South Pole Photo. Recommend you also include the play "Terra Nova" by Ted Talley.
[edit] A bad mistake
How come both Scott and Oates died on March 17th,if we know that Oates died days before rest of them.Thats the whole point of his sacrifaceDzoni 04:57, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Picture
There seems to be some discussion as to exactly who this is a picture of, a search of the web doesn't show anything conclusive, can anybody help?Mumby 19:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC) If the story about him being a pervert is true who cares when he died. Surely the world was well rid of him.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.123.248.95 (talk • contribs) 2007-05-01.
[edit] Death date correction?
As the entry from Scott's journal quoted here notes, Oates actually died on March 15 or 16, not on his birthday (Scott says it happened "yesterday" and that he's writing on the 16th or the 17th); the legend of the birthday death appeared inThe Last Place on Earth, but the record doesn't bear it out. Stevenso9 02:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- The only record of Oates' death comes from Scott's diary. That seems to be a bit unclear and seems to be interpretable in two ways. The sources usually say March 17, some people read the diary and say March 16, but I haven't found any published sources, so that could be Original research. I haven't reverted to March 17 but it would be interesting if anyone could find a statement that March 16 was the correct date from a good reading of the Diary. Dabbler (talk) 11:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
