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[edit] Archives

Note: See Portal:Law/former selections for a listing of past and present featured articles, cases, biographies, and images.

[edit] Redirects done, substance needed

All the weekly redirects are done, so each week one new topic will automatically rotate in - but now we need to fill in those topics! Here are the links:

Portal:Law/Case/Week 42 2006, Portal:Law/Statute/Week 42 2006Portal:Law/Biography/Week 43 2006, Portal:Law/Picture/Week 45 2006, Portal:Law/Case/Week 46 2006, Portal:Law/Biography/Week 47 2006, Portal:Law/Article/Week 48 2006, Portal:Law/Statute/Week 48 2006Portal:Law/Picture/Week 49 2006, Portal:Law/Case/Week 50 2006, Portal:Law/Biography/Week 51 2006, Portal:Law/Article/Week 52 2006

[edit] Setup of rotation system

How exactly are we supposed to set these up? Use the same article for 4 weeks in a row? If so, I'll start adding in the ones I listed above unless there are any objections. -Greg Asche (talk) 03:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's how it works - you'll note that each week has a different topic, starting over every fourth week. The necessary redirects are already done (but not shown, you can see them here) for the posts to last four weeks. All we need to do is add appropriate content to each of the 45 remaining links above. BD2412 T 04:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Inspired by the above discussion, I've tabbed Ernesto Miranda (of Miranda warning fame) for the week 7 bio. I think I'm going to look for a seal for the week 9 pic. BD2412 T 23:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Week 9 pic is done - Image:Sealtaglarge.jpg. BD2412 T 18:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Tabbed Michelle Bachelet for week 11 bio - that will be shortly after she takes office as President of Chile. BD2412 T 19:18, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selected case candidate

Came across this while updating DYK. The donkey kong bit sounds interesting and hence Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Nintendo Co., Ltd. may be a good candidate for selected case. --Gurubrahma 06:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

  • That is a fun one. BD2412 T 14:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Another one I came across in DYK updation - this is even more fun, imo - Stambovsky v. Ackley --Gurubrahma 18:12, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Indeed, I remember that one from my Property class! BD2412 T 18:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I just added a phat image for the week 17 picture. Any suggestions for the week 15 bio? BD2412 T 03:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Initial definition

"Law is the formal regime that orders human activities and relations through systematic application of the force of politically organized society."
Jesus Christ! Couldn't we get a less PoV and more up-to-date definition? This looks like John Austin speaking! Velho 03:52, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been a bit skeptical about that definition too. I certain any legal dictionary will have a defintion better than that. As well, would anyone be averse to changing the example in the second paragraph to something country-neutral? I think the point can still be illustrated without reference to any particular nation. --PullUpYourSocks 14:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

please see discussion in law page also; it's quite difficult to start the page with a definition and if people want one, that's what analytic jurisprudence is about, where everyone has a big ol' fight about what the definition is! Wikidea 00:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selected bios

I've tapped two great English Jurists for bios - Edward Coke for week 15, and William Blackstone for week 27 (so we don't have two back to back). Cheers! BD2412 T 01:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Per the above suggestions, I've tabbed Power of attorney and Twelve Tables for week 16 and 20 article rotations. More needed! BD2412 T 14:39, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Note: I've put Concurrent estate for the week 24 rotation. BD2412 T 14:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

BD - How about Jeremy Bentham for a future selected bio? - Jersyko·talk 01:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I like Adams v Cape Industries plc for a selected case - any thoughts? bd2412 T 21:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Do Suggestion: Law Templates

I have been actively trying to add a law template to every law page I come across. I think the template can use a lot of improvement, and so I would really like people to help with it. Chart123 02:02, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category Expansion

New categories should be added. Additions should include the following:

  • Constitutional Law
  • Legal Theory

Chart123 03:16, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


My addition of constitutional law and legal theory pages in the "categories" section were deleted. The comment on the deletion was that these are categories and not pages.
I understand that, and almost refrained from editing. However, some of the International law pages are pages, and not categories, and so I figured my additions would be acceptable. Is there then a reason for the double standard?
That minor issue aside, why aren't there category pages for legal theory and constitutional law? These are pretty broad issues in the law and should be added. And it's unclear to me why a stand-in for these cannot be added. The portal page seems incomplete without these additions. Chart123 16:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Interesting points - if there are articles listed in that section, they should be removed; and if there is no Category:Constitutional law or Category:Legal theory, these should be created! Cheers! BD2412 T 16:51, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
One thing to keep in mind is how "legal theory" is distinguished from "philosophy of law". In my mind their is a lot of overlap and I'm not entirely sure how they are different. --PullUpYourSocks 17:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there a Category:Philosophy of law? BD2412 T 19:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

BD et al - ok, how about (1) Mens rea for selected article, (2) Lawrence v. Texas for a selected case, (3) Judith Sheindlin for selected bio, and (4) this picture of the Supreme Court of Victoria for selected picture? - Jersyko·talk 13:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I like 'em - great bio pick! BD2412 T 13:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

More suggestions: Lawrence Lessig, Copyright Act of 1976, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, Hudson v. Michigan, & Law of Singapore (though perhaps a bit of POV should be excised first). · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 16:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

All good... working 'em in. bd2412 T 19:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone should put together an article on riding circuit. Aboutmovies 18:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Criminal justice

Just noting that a Portal:Criminal justice exists, so we should probably coordinate with that one. BD2412 T 22:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New category of stuff...

I've re-arranged the categories a bit, and added a new one - selected statute, starting with the First Amendment to the United States Constitution (not exactly a "statute", but within the realm of reason). bd2412 T 15:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent changes

I just changed the portal colour to match the template(although it could've gone the other way-I'm not really predisposed to either purple or green!). I hope this is okay, but perhaps future changes could do the same? Also, please excuse the messing about with the selected articles, etc, where I wasn't quite sure how it worked. I updated the page in the archive with a short explanation, and introduced the links down the bottom so people coming to the page will understand. Please alter if what I wrote there was incorrect.Wikidea 03:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change in category assignment

I would like to propose that the Bible article be revised and split between Law category and that of the Religion it is in now.

My argument is rather simple.

For the original users of the Hebrew Bible known as Torah in English, the text represents, as the introductory page on law category suggests, a primary source of legal and judiciary administration of their society, and continues to be practiced as such today. The fact that the individual is asked to believe that the law eminates from God or not does not reduce its significance to the understanding and practice of law. Nor is this belief required in the practice of law which is dependent on evidence and argument.

On the other hand the Christian use of the Hebrew Bible text is not used for its legal application, but its primarily moral values. The Christian church had never fully implimented the legal mechanisms and methods inherrent in the Torah, and has been suplemented and replaced in application throughout the World. The moral part of the text requires belief rather then logical argument or evidence from the practitioner, and therefore does belong in the religion category.--Mrg3105 03:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I suppose it's certainly an important part of the History of Law, or the Law of Israel? Maybe you could start adding the information you know to a new section on those pages? That could be really useful. Wikidea 08:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New article

Hello all, I created a new article United States v. Curtiss-Wright. It still needs improvement and more of what the case law says.Charleenmerced Talk 15:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)Charleenmerced

Merged and redirected to existing United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp.. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Demographic estimates of the German exodus from Eastern Europe

The article is about demography. You may write an article about legal aspects of anything, but it woul dbe a new article. If this article is about law, almost any historical article is about law. Is this your idea of this portal? Xx236 13:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High court Judges

I noticed accidentally that although there is a list of UK High court Judges, there are individual articles for only a very few. Dothe people here consider that they are not notable? DGG 23:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Legal Meaning

I would like to see an article entitled Meaning (legal) that would summarize the history and concepts based on Original meaning and the Plain Meaning Rule (for instance). I notice that the law-related article Special meaning has been summarily deleted by someone: 2007-07-30T17:06:24 Mikkalai deleted "Special meaning" (nonspecific word combination. content was: 'Special meaning refers to the fixed or limited meaning allowed by law to be given to a word, phrase or expression in specific circumstances ...') Bob 20:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Did you enter it on Wikipedia:Requested articles? Mbisanz (talk) 06:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for third opinion: debate over validity of external link at article Moot Court

I have no legal background whatever, so I don't really have any good perspective on a minor dispute at Moot court. A new user, user:Jimdugan wants to press the case for an external web-site, which looks to me like spamvertising. May I invite further opinions at talk:Moot court. --John Maynard Friedman 12:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Difference between the legal terms "Inquest" and "Joint Inquest"

Recently having read the term "joint inquest" in an Agatha Christie novel, I´ve checked it in my Langentscheidt as well as in my PONS English-German dictionary, but I could only find the word "inquest" there. So I´d like to know whether "joint inquest" is the correct legal form, short "inquest", or whether there is a real difference in re. 91.21.61.246 13:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Review of M.C.Mehta v. Kamal Nath

Hi, I would like to invite all to kindly review and suggest changes needed to the article M.C.Mehta v. Kamal Nath, which dealt with the Public trust doctrine for the first time in India. Thanks LegalEagle 13:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Law related hooks that recently appeared at T:DYK

You may wish to add these to the Did you know? part of the portal, to be rotated through. It's up to you folks. Cheers, Cirt 07:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC).

  • The first one is not really a "law" matter - maybe a crime, but where is the legal hook? bd2412 T 12:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)