User talk:LaurieFoston

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[edit] April 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Image:Michael D Cortson bio.pdf. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. Madman bum and angel 23:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Cortson

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Michael Cortson, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. hbdragon88 04:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cortson Article

Hi:

My comments on the article talk page where not meant to be snide, but I am extremely skeptical about these claims. Thus, I've opened a deletion review for Michael Cortson. Comments can be made here. [1].

Please respect the process and weigh in with your views; if it can be proven he has cured himself of pancreatic cancer and written 38 books and numerous screenplays in 6 months, then I would be the first to agree that he is notable. Brunonia 22:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I never put in this article that he self cured pancreatic cancer. I took off the quote about the books until I can prove it. I will make the appropriate references. When I get them from him. You just can't seem to wait to get my article off of here. I have removed any comment that would even be related to your accudsations so your requirements should have been met.LaurieFoston 07:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
These aren't my 'requirements' Cheryl, they are the rules for editing Wikipedia. This isn't a messageboard, it's an encyclopedia. See WP:Bio for some of the guidelines. I have nothing personal in this, don't know the man. Brunonia 04:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Please note that you need third party references we cannot use Cortson himself as the only reference. hbdragon88 05:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
This self-published account is what I was referring to [2] with the cancer claims. Brunonia 03:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply re Michael Cortson

The most important criteria for any article (not just biographies) is "multiple independent non-trivial sources" - basically, you need to show that at least two other newspapers/significant websites/books etc have written about him (see WP:CITE for how to source things 'correctly', but as long as you show in the article what the sources are, don't worry too much about getting it perfect as someone else will tidy it up). Because at the moment, the only sources are things he's written himself, these don't satisfy the "independent" part of that.

Biographical articles have some further criteria they also need to meet, in order to prevent people who, for example, weren't particularly important but had obituaries in two newspapers (thus technically satisfying the criteria) from having their own pages and clogging things up. See WP:BIO for a full list of how Wikipedia determines whether a biographical article stays up. Again, this needs to be demonstrated from independent sources - because Wikipedia is a 'tertiary source', it shouldn't mention any fact that hasn't already been mentioned somewhere else.
If it does get deleted, don't take it as a personal insult; it won't be because of you, but purely because it doesn't in this form satisfy the criteria. I'd suggest moving a copy to a user subpage (to create a subpage, put a slash and the title after your username, eg User:LaurieFoston/Michael Cortson; user pages are exempt from most of the rules about content, so you can keep it there, work on expanding it and then move it back into the mainspace when it's ready.
Hope that helps! If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me (but be aware that he's a subject I know nothing of, so probably won't be able to help with any rewriting. You may want to post a message on the Talk page of WikiProject Golf to see if anyone there has anything they can add to it, as they'll likely have more knowledge of the matter. - iridescenti (talk to me!) 16:15, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

I note you've deleted the request for help but will answer it anyway - although I don't think it constitutes spam, I can see why people might think it does. It would probably be a good idea to delete the links to Amazon etc, as they do look like advertising, and possibly cut the whole thing right down. You're within your rights to have a link to your website on your page - you might want to consider pasting {{User:Blast san/userboxes/User website here|www.yoursitehere.com}} onto your userpage - so it might be a good idea to create a Myspace page and link to that — iridescenti (talk to me!) 19:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that she may be referring to my welcome message, back when I noticed edits like this to the sf-writers-stub and here to a redirect. I took this as attempted spamming and cautioned her against it. hbdragon88 23:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


Sorry, again. I took off the posting for help first of all because no one answered and I looked again and saw that the posting was outdated. So I felt foolish. I will remove the amazon link, which I really only had there to prove that I even had a book out on the market as some could have asked for proof of this and then I would not have proof. At any rate, I got the idea from another author's article that someone posted on a main page. I thought it was necessary therefore that I do the same. Going there to remove the amazon link now. As for cutting the whole thing down...just go ahead and type in here what you want me to take out and I will take a look at your suggestion to consider it for a better article. I have a tendency to overwork my oil paintings in the same fashion. Thank you.LaurieFoston 01:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, that's done. I will go on to something else as I find myself reading for hours on end in this forum.LaurieFoston 01:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)