Template talk:Latest stable software release/Mozilla Firefox

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There's been some confusion about the release of Firefox 2. Official Wikipedia policy states that articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources. If there has been no official announcement, we cannot verify that the release has indeed occurred, and should not update the release versions. On a more practical note, until the release is announced, we do not know which version will be the final release. That means until there is an official announcement, there is fact has been no release. The release is still planned for Tuesday. -- Schapel 15:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You can download v2.0 from http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US for example (this is the official site!). This means, that version 2.0 has been released (although not yet publicly announced). They call it "2.0", and any! following version will get an other version number (because it is in the "release" folder on every moz-ftp-server now)! --- Best regards, Melancholie 15:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I understand that you can download a version that calls itself Firefox 2.0. I don't dispute that. That build has been available since October 10 and was also called Firefox 2 RC3. However, we don't know that in fact it will be the official release, and even if it will be we cannot verify it. Until then, we should not change Wikipedia articles to say that it is the official release. -- Schapel 15:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
They changed some things in the publicly available "Firefox 2 RC3", so they have to call the changed version differently. Now they call it "Firefox 2.0", and it's public, too. When they change something now, they will have to higher the version number (2.0.1 or 2.0.0.1 for example). You could say: "Maybe they don't". But then they could do so whenever they want. A publicly available software revision is out there within minutes, so you just have to higher a version number when changing something. --- Greetings, Melancholie 16:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
No, they did not change anything from Firefox 2 RC3 to the build that is available now. I have Firefox 2 RC3 installed on my computer, and it does not identify itself as Firefox 2 RC3, but as Firefox 2. Because they have not officially released Firefox 2 yet, they could indeed come out with a new build that is different without changing the version number. -- Schapel 16:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
There's more discussion about when we can talk about the release on the Firefox discussion page. -- Schapel 16:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Now a word from Mozilla's build engineer, for those who are still not quite convinced that Firefox 2 has not been released yet. -- Schapel 13:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)