Talk:Latin (disambiguation)

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[edit] Greek

Should [[Greek]] on this page disambiguate to Greek language or Greece? sannse 10:19 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

Good question! I went with Greek language because the "east" included provinces like Egypt and Syria that were Greek-speaking (mostly) but not plausibly part of Greece. Stan 14:14 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

It doesn't really mean the language, it means the culture - the same way that Latin does in the context given. Of the links on the Greek page, Byzantine Empire is probably the closest...but what's wrong with leaving it as a pointer to the disambiguation until a better match appears?

But how do you keep the energetic from trying to fix it then? Byzantime Empire is not quite right, because the "Greek" areas included some outside its rule, and I'm not sure about culture, because different areas had their own cultures. What they had in common was the use of Greek as a lingua franca. It would be nice to have an generic Greek East article to link to, I'd have to study up to write it tho. Stan 16:15 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

Would it work to say: "...as opposed to the Greek speaking east"? Maybe that would make it less ambiguous in the absence of an article on the Greek East. Of course, if someone wants to write the article..... :) -- sannse 17:44 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)

It would work, but it would be confusing. The very sentence we are looking at is explaining the notion of the Latin West, and pairing that up against the Greek-speaking East would be somewhat weird. The divide wasn't entirely linguistic, anyways, it has to do with various aspects of society, include not least notably the separate forms of Christianity that had developed by the later Middle Ages. Would anything be wrong with simply linking to Greek East, as a pointer for when someone does write the article?

Sounds good to me. In that case I guess we should also have a link to Latin West and an eventual article. Or, if it wouldn't make two articles, is there a general term we can redirect to? Maybe with an explanation of the terms and the political/social/religious implications in that article? sannse 08:18 Feb 28, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Romans vs Latins

Would the Latin people differ from the Romans? (anon)

If any of you are interested to discuss the subject, you can come to : http://latin-culture.blogspot.com/ (anon)

Well, eventually "Romans" and "Roman" came to be a matter of citizenship in the Roman empire, not an ethnic group. The Latins were an ethnic group, pre-dating Rome, and not confined to the city of Rome. Alexander 007 09:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Clarification: Latin and Roman were not originally the same thing. Rome was just one of the Latin villages. Of course, as the Roman state grew it incorporated all of Latium, then all of Italy, etc. So it depends on the perspective but, in an encyclopedia where you are going all back to the historical origins of a people, it is a signficant distinction. --Mcorazao 18:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)