Talk:Last of the Time Lords
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[edit] Followed by...
I see that the disagreement about whether to list "Time Crash" has spread to this page as well. I understand the perspectives of those who point out that we don't yet know whether "Time Crash" will follow on from the narrative of "Last of the Time Lords". However, I think that it does little harm to list "Time Crash" in the infobox here, especially if we also list "Voyage of the Damned". There are good arguments on both sides: one argument on the "pro-inclusion" side is that "Time Crash" is being made by the current production team, will be broadcast on BBC One, and has been announced on the BBC's official Doctor Who website. All this seems to me to indicate that it will be as "official" as the last Children in Need special was.
It's true that we don't yet know whether "Time Crash" will follow on from "Last of the Time Lords" (although the title, and the costume worn by David Tennant in the publicity pictures, certainly suggest that it will). At this point, though, we need to remember that ideally on Wikipedia we consider matters from an "out-of-universe" perspective. Even though the "preceded by" and "followed by" fields are somewhat "in-universe" by their very nature, I think that in an ambiguous case like this we should fall back on the broadcast order. And in terms of broadcasts, "Time Crash" is the next Doctor Who television story.
Obviously, if "Time Crash" turns out to be an out-of-continuity romp like "The Curse of Fatal Death", we can remove it from the infobox here. But I think that until the episode airs, it makes sense to list it in the "followed by" field — not least because if we don't, we'll spend the next month reverting its addition by editors who haven't followed the debate. (See my similar argument at Talk:List of Doctor Who serials.) Does that seem reasonable? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Seems very reasonable! Harry matthews 07:02, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Genesis of the Daleks
There is a bit in this episode where the Doctor warns the Master that he is changing history and the Master replies "I'm a Time Lord. I have that right." Does anyone else think this is a reference to the famous "Have I the right?" speech from Genesis of the Daleks? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.96.32 (talk) 07:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- It could be, but without confirmation from some official source (or at the very least, speculation by a noteworthy source, such as a review in Doctor Who Magazine) we shouldn't mention it in the article. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Continuity
This does not appear to be the Doctor's first encounter with the Titanic. Is this needed? According to reports, the Titanic in this episode is not the RMS Titanic but basically a space cruise liner. yettie0711 (talk) 19:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
It was in the episode Rose. The Ninth Doctor is shown in one of Clive's photos, in Eighth Doctor costume, next to the Titanic ship in 1912. It's an unchronicled story between the book The Gallifrey Chronicles and that episode. However, that quote is Original Research anyway, so you was right to query it. Digifiend (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Medusa Cascade
According to the BBC fact file, the Master mentions the Medusa Cascade in this episode; the Cascade is later mentioned in The Fires of Pompeii. Does anyone recall the exact context of the Master's reference to the Cascade? It may be worth adding to the "Continuity" section. Kelvingreen (talk) 13:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- He said:
The Master: I remember the days when the Doctor, oh, that famous Doctor... was waging a Time War, battling Sea Devils, and Axons, he sealed the Rift at the Medusa Cascade, single handed. And look at him now, stealing screwdrivers... How did he ever come to this? Oh yes! Me!
The Doctor: I just... need you to listen.
The Master: No, it's my turn. Revenge. Best served hot.
LizzieHarrison 11:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Maybe sealing that rift opened up the one to Rose's parallel universe! We'll find out in 22 days. Digifiend (talk) 09:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] French translation
The French version of this page is very short. Couldn't somebody who knows both languages translate this article? Digifiend (talk) 13:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
