Talk:Las Vegas/pre-move

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[edit] What does Las Vegas mean?

Lon Kruger, the coach of the UNLV rebels on a TV interview today (March 15, 2007 as broadcast on KTNV) about what people think of Vegas when the team is at the NCAA tournament in Chicago is the Las Vegas Strip. Everyone wants to know how we can all live on the strip. Apparently they don't know there is more to Las Vegas then the strip. Vegaswikian 23:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect target

I have just posted to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 April 14 that the discussion should be here, not there, so better start the section :-)

Possible targets for a redirect called "Las Vegas" appear to include:

  1. Las Vegas, Nevada which is focussed on the city area inside a small political boundary
  2. Las Vegas metropolitan area which gives a lighter coverage to a larger area
  3. Las Vegas Strip which is what most people from outside Nevada think of first when we hear the term. It is inside the metropolitan area, but outside the city boundary
  4. Las Vegas (disambiguation) which makes the reader decide what they really meant.

There are over 2000 links to this redirect, so we need to "fix" it reasonably quickly, and correct any/all links that are wrong. The easiest way to decide which are wrong is to make it a disambig page - then all the links are wrong, but fixing them requires thought. Otherwise, some will be right, thought is required to decide which ones, and thought is still required to determine where the wrong ones should point.

Are there good arguments besides "it's too hard" for the redirect to point to a particular article rather than the disambig page? --Scott Davis Talk 14:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

There's already been discussion on Talk:Las Vegas, Nevada so it's not like we haven't been discussing this. --Golbez 15:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry - I was unaware there was discussion there too. --Scott Davis Talk 23:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Every so often I try and fix some of the redirects. It seems the inbound ones grow faster then one person fixing them. While some of them are easy to fix, like those clearly about something in the city or on the strip, many are not clear. For now I have been leaving those that I see as unclear untouched. I will say that a clear minority so far have been about the city, that is why making the city the target is so wrong. Vegaswikian 19:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
My suggestion might be that "Las Vegas" is the redirect, with a set of guidelines on the talk page to assist people who don't know LV well to help us decide which article to use when fixing links. For example, would I be correct that any article that says "Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas" actually means "Caesars Palace on the Las Vegas Strip"? Or is there an even better way? --Scott Davis Talk 23:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that is where it is right now. Las Vegas redirects to Las Vegas (disambiguation). So any link to Las Vegas leaves you at the disambiguation page so that you can select the correct place. In your example, yes, Las Vegas Strip is probably the most likely intended target. And Scott Davis has provided the list of guidelines to use when fixes links as the opening to this discussion. Vegaswikian 23:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)