Talk:Las Anod

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Africa This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Africa, which collaborates on articles related to Africa in Wikipedia. To participate, you can edit this article or visit the project page for more details.
Stub This article has been rated as stub-class on the quality scale.
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
This article is supported by WikiProject Somalia. See also the Somalia Portal.


This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Las Anod article.

Article policies

Contents

[edit] Disputed

Laascaanood is one of the 6th Somaliland regions but the city still behind because the punt land militia who always try to disturb the peace of the region The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.2.21 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 3 October 2004 (UTC)

Keep your qaabiiliste crap to yourself. No one knows or cares about Somaliland and its expansionism over Puntland. The people of Las Anod share the same lineage with the citizens of Puntland, its only natural that Las Anod be a part of Puntland. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.28.236.161 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
As the preceding exchange suggests, Laascaanood would seem to be disputed territory, along with the Sool region itself. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


Laasanod is the capital of Sool region of British Somaliland protecerate which gained it's independence 26th June 1960 and days later opted for a union with Italian Somaliland to form a two state union called the republic of Somalia.

Unfortunately, the union was to proof disastrous and and in favour of former Italian Somaliland. Things would only get worst with the abondenment of civil rule and a coupe orchestrated by Siyad Barre in 1969. Siyad Barre, who hailed from the Italian side of the union sought about oppressing the British Somaliland citisens actively and actively carried out acts contrary to human rights. A bitter genocide was committed against the British Somaliland civilians in later years by the Barre regime. In one city alone, Hargeysa, 50, 000 civilians were killed in cold blooded air raids. meanwhile, The Isaq, the dominat clan of British Somaliland, who the hostilities were mainly aimed at, would organize the Somali National Movement (SNM) which fought a bitter war against Siyaad Barre and eventually managed to take control of all the former British Somaliland terratories. SNM, called for a reconcillation between all the clans of British Somaliland and in 1991, Somaliland announced the restoration of it's soverieghnty and commitment to the colonial borders.

Years later, 1998, Puntland, an entity with no history, no justifiable cause was announced in the north east parts of Somalia. Later in 2002, Puntland millitias would occupy Lasanod forcefuly although Somaliland (even though millitarly much superiour) did not retaliate in order to ovioud unnecessary loss of civilian life. For years Somaliland would try and resolve the situation peacefully through a dialogue but Puntlands response was further acts of hostility and abuse of the residents of Lasanod/Sool.

Eventually in October 2007 the people of Lasanod who got fed up with Puntland's abuse and the failure of Hartism (the basis behind Puntland's claim of Lasanod i.e both the dominant Majerteen of Puntland and Dhulbahante of Sool hail from the Harti clan) to deliver, decided to be part of Somaliland once again.

Therefore Lasanod Falls within the boundary of British Somaliland and people of Lasanod are committed to Somaliland's desire to restore sovereignty as agreed upon by all the clans (shortly after liberating it from Siyad Barre) of Somaliland in Burco including the Dhulbahates in 1991.

In short Lasanod and Sool are part of Somaliland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.200.225 (talk) 00:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capital Name

I assume Laascaanood is the same as Las Anod since this news article mentions the capital of Sool with a kind of similar name. I mentioned it in the main article and created a redirect for it.

"Las Anod is the capital of Sool, which both regions claim, along with neighbouring Sanaag."[1] The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richard Cane (talk • contribs) 18:18, 31 October 2004 (UTC)

LASSAANOD IS CITY IN SOMALIAND, BUT MOST IT PUPOLATION ARE AFAR The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.67.142.171 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] October 2007

Since October 15, various editors have changed the article to show Las Anod as being under the jurisdiction of Somaliland, Puntland, or Somalia. The Somaliland claim is the only one accompanied by an attribution and so I have reverted to that version of the article. If you believe this information is incorrect then please cite sources to the contrary. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copied from User talk:Gyrofrog

I am copying the following discussion from my user talk page to this article's talk page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Battle of Las Anod - for Somaliland's victory, see aljazeera's reference: Troops from the breakaway Somali republic of Somaliland have seized a village inside a rival region loyal to the interim Somali president, killing at least 10 people. The reference is already in the article, among others confirming that. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Your reverts to Las Anod article seem OK, no need for the POV tag.
  • Cheers,--TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I guess the PoV dispute has more to do with calling it "Somaliland" at all (vs. "Somalia"). -- Gyrofrog 23:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

What is disputed is the notion of Somaliland, which is not a country nor it is recognized as such by any world organzations. So for anyone to call a city in Somalia, Somaliland is repugnant. It is a clan disagreement (much like the civil war) and which clan has what land. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a city in Somalia, and will stay a city in Somalia till the end of times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.76.243.240 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 17 October 2007

I don't expect to resolve Somaliland's sovereignty issue on my talk page (if anywhere), but still, isn't it accurate to say that armed forces, who claim to represent a place called Somaliland, won a battle over Las Anod on Oct. 15? -- Gyrofrog 15:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] January 2008

Las Anod (Laascaanood) is a capitol of Sool State of Somalia. The population of this city is between 100,000 and 150,000. is you need prove contact the UN. it's not part of Somaliland because no such entity is recognises by any world body. Aslo the people are called Dhulbahante and not AfAr as mentioned in one of the above entries. --Libaaxy (talk) 16:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

If the UN can corroborate the population number, then feel free to provide a citation. As for the disputed status or non-status of Somaliland, please see my earlier comments under "October 2007." Thanks! -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

LAS ANOD IS A TOWN IN SOMALILAND'S REGION OF SOOL, ITS JUST BEEN LIBERATED FROM THE PUNTLAND MILITIA. OFCOURSE THERE ARE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE DHULBAHANTE CLAN WHO SIDES WITH PUNTLAND, BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE REGION FEEL THEY ARE PART OF SOMALILAND.

THE POPULATION NUMBER IS WELL EXAGIRATED, ABOUT 20 000 TO 30 000 PEOPLE LIVE IN LAS ANOD. A POPULATION OF 100 000 OR MORE CANNOT LIVE IN SUCH A SMALL TOWN WITH NO HIGH RISE BUILIDNGS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.241.246 (talk) 19:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Again, attribution would be useful. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV tag

This concerns POV tag cleanup. Whenever an POV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. This is a drive-by tag, which is discouraged in WP, and it shall be removed. Future tags should have discussion posted as to why the tag was placed, and how the topic might be improved. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements. This statement is not a judgement of content, it is only a cleanup of frivolously and/or arbitrarily placed tags. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 23:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)