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Dispute resolution

I noticed that you're a volunteer of the Mediation Cabal, but I thought that I'd try to ask for your advise before making an official request for mediation.

I'm involved in a dispute with user:panda. After a long and at times very heated debate over at Talk:Swedish language followed by a frustrated attempt at a rather pointy FAR on my part, I filed a Wikiquette Alert. Unfortunately, I don't think any progress is really being made, partially because panda believes that comments and questions from user:henrik, who has been reasonable neutral, but has still sided with me in a lot of issues, are overly partial. There's also still a lot of bad faith floating around that's slowing down just about any progress. Do you think you could take a look at the situation and comment it?

The WQA can be found here.

Peter Isotalo 07:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

User:LaraLove/Editor for deletion/Criteria for editor deletion

I was thinking of creating a set of criteria for editor deletion. What do you think? Respond on my newly-archived talk page. Best, --Gp75motorsports REV LIMITER 01:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. I reserve the right to alter it. Lara❤Love 04:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

What was going on here?

Well, anyway, I fixed the link... Qst 01:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, haha. I used the Father userbox to make the Mother userbox. I apparently forgot to change the pipe. Hahaa. Thanks for fixing it! Lara❤Love 03:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Why am I blacklisted from editing EFD? (Well, besides my increasingly-notorious taunt of Giove) There's no reason for this. --Gp75motorsports REV LIMITER 02:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

New photo

Hello Lara! How are you? Your new photo is cool. You look attractive. I made that comment in good faith. Whenever I see attractive ladies, I call them attractive. I wish you all the best. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Slipknot (band)

Hello there, I recently requested peer reviews on the article Slipknot (band) and I found that you had listed yourself on the peer review volunteers. Your review would be greatly appreciated if you have the time, thanks. Rezter (talk) 14:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, sorry if this appears as though I'm nagging you. But you made some great copy-edits to the aticle Slipknot (band), I moved your comments from the talk page to the peer reviews page. I thought maybe because I did this you didn't see my reply. Anyways, I would just like to thank you once again and say that your input is always welcome. Thanks and happy holidays. Rezter (talk) 19:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
No worries. You're not nagging. I'll look for an example of the musical influences. As for the other stuff, it looks good. Can't include what you can't find, right? I'll get back to you on the example. Maroon 5 includes some information on what influenced them, tho I don't think it cites any specific artists. Still could give you an idea, but I'll look for something more closely related. Lara❤Love 19:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

You got a Christmas card! → → →

Would you take a look?

An image used in the article on the first Bangladeshi pornstar Jazmin, Image:WorshipThisBitch3.jpg, the cover of the DVD that made her the selling point, a first for a Bangladeshi, is up for deletion here. You may be interested to take a look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya Kabir (talk • contribs) 21:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Lara, why do people keep thinking you are a pornstar? Oh yeah... Pimpin White Ho's... --Jayron32|talk|contribs 05:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh my God, I didn't even think about that! People are coming to me for porn star advice because Pimpin' White Hos has been brought to the surface. Damn. Lara❤Love 05:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
That's not the only thing thats been brought to the... nevermind. I'm above such humor. SURFACE! the_undertow talk 05:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Haha. Nice. I really don't know why this was brought to my attention. I don't work in Bangladeshi articles or porn articles. And I delete more images than I save. Lara❤Love 05:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Blessed editing, and...

Marlith T/C 00:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

MVP!

I love the part in Mitral valve prolapse where 'death' is listed as a complication. Hahaha. I just read the whole article and realized that I literally do, in fact, have a broken heart!? So I understand that if I edit TOOL there is a COI, because of my undying love for the band. Now if I edit Do You Hear What We Hear?, I can be NPOV because I have never encountered it before. However, today I saved James Thiérrée from deletion, which is essentially about a dude who may or may not be a mime. I don't like mimes. So what's it called when you edit an article you don't really like? the_undertow talk 01:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

1. I don't like that complication.
2. Considering my murmur, we both do, in fact, have broken hearts. ;)
3. Nice work. I don't particularly care for mimes, but I really don't like clowns.
4. Dedication to the project. Lara❤Love 01:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Watch the video (not mine) that is on the page. It's actually pretty cool. the_undertow talk 01:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Trust I watched that video plenty of times. I just watched this mime thing... interesting. His like 3 second clip was good. I want the job playing in the bunch of elastic cording. Lara❤Love 04:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I see myself more of a trapeze type person because of my incredible balance and stability. the_undertow talk 04:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Hahahahaaaa... ah, that's classic. Haha. Lara❤Love 05:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi there

Hi there! First, my apologies for any confusion Blnguyen and/or I may have caused on your man's RfB. We were actually discussing my own comment, not his, and I think the confusion probably stems from me editing my original comment after Blnguyen responded. I've "reverted" you, so to speak, so I figured it'd be proper to drop you a line to let you know. Again, apologies for any confusion. Cheers gaillimhConas tá tú? 13:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. I thought it was in response to Blnguyen's oppose (#1). I figured the reply was just accidentally placed under the latest reply at the time. My bad. Thanks for dropping me a line. Lara❤Love 13:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Sure thing, cheers! gaillimhConas tá tú? 14:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Question...

...look, I know that I've been banned from EFD, but I plan to improve it either way with a front matter that needs to be restored, and a possible Twinkle script. Would you like me to improve it? I would like your thoughts. —BoL @ 22:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't want the header that you placed on R's version there at the end. And I don't see the need for a script. But thanks fro the offer. Lara❤Love 03:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
By the way, the same problems are coming back. Daniel 04:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
That was a user. User:Wikipedia. I almost reverted it the day it went up, but I clicked to see it was actually an acct. Although I normally would not leave an inactive acct up, I thought it amusing that it even existed. So I left it for anyone that felt inclined to comment. Which was no one. Lara❤Love 05:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The user is blocked, so whoever they are or regardless of their name we shouldn't be discussing them. Daniel 06:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Don't know if this is the right place to post it or not, but BoL said he was just testing the Twinke script. --Gp75motorsports REV LIMITER 01:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

(undent)It's not working, so I'm not testing it. It never works. —BoL @ 01:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not going to use a script on the page, so I don't need updates. Lara❤Love 01:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

No One Expects the Bathrobe Cabal!

[1] --Jayron32|talk|contribs 06:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No doubt! On with the RfA, then on with a bathrobe!! Haha. Check it: http://www.bathrobecabal.org Haha. The_undertow is awesome x 10. Lara❤Love 06:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandal warning

"no less than the rest of forever"? lol Good on you! Trekphiler (talk) 19:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Haha, thanks. I learned from the master. :) Lara❤Love 19:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

What the Bleep Do We Know!?

Hi LauraLove. I'd like to ask you about an edit you made to to this article. Your edit summary said, "*A* review from *one* scientific magazine does not represent the "scientific community"." I'm wondering, what gives you the impression that this review is the only piece of work from mainstream science that criticizes either the movie itself, or the fringe ideas espoused within the movie? In your opinion, what would represent the "scientific community?" Antelan talk 01:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

If there's more to it, it needs to be cited in the article. However, that one review is the only reference. One of anything does not represent consensus or a "community". What I consider the "scientific community" is something more than a movie review from a science magazine. Be realistic. Lara❤Love 03:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Awesomeness galore

First off, I just saw your comment at the end of the "Wikipedia Rules" article. I nearly pissed myself with laughter (the gif above is spectacular). Good to see you out and about again Lara, VanTucky talk 21:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yea, it's been good times since I came back, but I'm leaving again. Lara❤Love 21:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom case

I'm a bit confused, because you aren't suppposed to be around??? Anyhow, I just asked Rikstar to summarize invovlement with 141 and the Elvis article. There are (I think) 500 words in the Arbcom form. I asked Rikstar to do 100-200. Although I can copy your commetns from talk pages, do you have any comments for the Arbcom? BTW it is going to take a while to do this. I have a lot of history to sum up. Steve Pastor (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sort of around, but not really. Don't have a lot of interest in anything right now. I can write something up. Lara❤Love 22:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Update: I just pasted together the comments by Rikstar, yourself, and Maria calling for action against 141. 345 words! I'll also update Rikstar. Steve Pastor (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

RE RfB

Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of this (the message on his talkpage indicated that he had retired). I'll correct the question ASAP. WaltonOne 17:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Also, although the question may sound harsh towards EVula, bear in mind that I have already supported the RfB, and I'm certainly not planning to withdraw my support on the basis of the Goodshoped affair (as it has no relation to bureaucratship, and doesn't alter the fact that I trust him to be a good bureaucrat). WaltonOne 17:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Titanium Nuts

You have to have balls of steel to add your own image to the Nambla article. Is there a barnstar for the coolest edit of the day? the_undertow talk 02:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta

I simply loathe the ref template you are using. the_undertow talk 04:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Get on Yahoo or IRC and stfu. I used the one you were using. I don't even use ref templates normally. I do manual referencing. Lara❤Love 05:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Then you won't mind if I change teh template to teh awesome one I like. If I chat, I'll never get out tonite. the_undertow talk 05:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Use whatever you want. What to you want the line for DYK to be? Lara❤Love 05:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Something about how not all crackers are hung like moths. We are, but still...the stigma hurts. the_undertow talk 05:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll submit it without your help, muh knitta. But it would be much more awesome if it were a team project. Lara❤Love 05:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I just don't like DYK. the_undertow talk 05:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

You don't like DYK? That makes no sense to me. XD Lara❤Love 05:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Because it's so pretentious like hey, I bet you didn't know this, dumbass. Well guess what, not only did I KNOW it, I either invented it or have been arrested for doing it. the_undertow talk 05:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Hahaa. You're retarded. You have not been arrested for this. ROFL. DYK puts it on the main page. That's promotion right there. For your cause, knitta! Lara❤Love 05:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Help on Asian fetish

I see that you have protected Asian fetish not too long ago. Asian fetish has never been stable since the article was unprotected. User:Tkguy is preventing me from deleting external links (apparently vandalism) and deleting what I think is original research. (He believes that adoption of Asian babies is linked to Asian fetish although it lacks sources.) Can you provide some comment on the talk page please? миражinred (talk) 15:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

First off here are the facts:
1) This page has a clear history of vandals wanting to delete any and all content that makes this term into an obsession or something negative.
2) Saranghae honey requested that this page be deleted but that request was denied.
3) Saranghae honey have on many occasion been deleting references from the page that have been on the page for a long time. And this is after Saranghae honey's page deletion request was denied. All references makes asian fetish into something negative or an obsession.
So now you are telling me that Saranghae honey actions are different from the work of the vandals on this page? Just because Saranghae honey says that the deletion is because of the lack of integrity on the page? Can you see why I think this is very questionable? If you can see saranghae honey's side then can you please try to see it from my perspective? Is it possible the updating of the headers and other items are just to hide the fact that Saranghae honey's true purpose is to delete content? Before Saranghae honey just deleted items but now Saranghae is deleting and updating content. If I am not mistaken those who are chronic vandals this is what they typically do to hide their aggressive deletions.
As for the asian adoption items. I provided a definite reference to a piece that connects asian fetish and international adoption. I was also including the possible consequences of this connection. I really don't believe kids who went through international adoption will have the resources to conduct studies or have the time to write articles on this topic. They are probably just trying to survive. But not surprisingly those who have the money and resources to adopt are making sure their perspective are known and do anything to mitigate anything that would make international adoption into a negative thing. But assure you that the connection is there. I strongly suggest you read up on actual experiences of the people who actually were adopted. It is only recently that these adoptees have organized and made their voice heard. Even on the korean adoptee page and International adoption of South Korean children there are edit wars there just like on the asian fetish page where the people on both sides of the issue, those who want to make international adoption into something benign and those who think it's not benign. Let me show you one talk page entry for International adoption of South Korean children that struck me. Seeing that you are a female I am hoping that your experience in a sexist world will make you more sympathetic to the obvious force redefinition of a racist term that is being made on the asian fetish page.
"Well, whether or not it is 'cynical' to point out some of the things which have happened in the history of Korean adoption, I leave up to the reader to decide. This entry was written from the POW of Korean adoptees, and many of us can testify that adoption agencies have NOT always behaved in a way which could be classified as 'care for children whose parents can not care for them'! In fact, some of us can prove that the adoption agencies have NOT acted in our best interests, but instead have been feeding into their own overriding agendas and for their own profit. I do not deny that some agencies also do some worthy welfare work, like running hospitals etc, but this does not mean that everything the agencies have done through the 50 yrs of Korean adoption, has been ethical, hence the reason for pointing out the financial interests which has come as a result of the 'industrialization' of international adoption from Korea. As an adult adoptee, I believe that WE, the adoptees, 'own' our own history and are entitled to tell it from our own POW, instead of conflicting agendas interfering with how it is being portrayed. I therefore do NOT believe that anyone else is entitled to appropriate (a.k.a. KADpropriate) our history by changing it to fit their own image.
Wikipedia moderator, how do I protect this page from being KADpropriated and edited by someone else than the ones history actually belongs to (adult adoptees)????" Tkguy (talk) 22:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
You don't go about getting the article protected from people you don't want to edit it. The information you're adding, at least the last addition, was extremely vague. That's not appropriate for an encyclopedia. And you're doing so against consensus. I'm also seeing that you're one revert away from 3RR. So what you need understand is that Wikipedia is not a place for you to write your point of view as someone who has experienced it. Wikipedia articles need to be presented in a neutral point of view, with additions made under consensus, backed by reliable sources. In looking over the talk page and the many inappropriately used editprotected templates, it's clear that there are some issues with understanding the spirit of Wikipedia. This article is not your own. You must keep that in mind. Lara❤Love 00:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
My last entry was something that was deleted a long time ago. and the reason? they are referring to sources that the author deemed bias. journalists and asian community leaders. Please check the Sex crimes against Asian women in the United States if you don't think that people are not targeting asian females. It's not my writing, I copy pasted from an old version of the article. yes, it's a word for word copy and paste. People keep deleting stuff from the page so I am bring the stuff back.
I reverted Saranghae honey's deletes because a page that was historically vandalized, had half it's external links deleted because somebody felt there were too many there. A person who wanted this same page deleted but was denied from doing so. And then I deleted this gem of an entry.
"== Asian fetishes around the world ==
The biggest countries with Asian fetishes are China, South Korea, Japan and Swaziland."
I am confident that I am being neutral. If I was not I would have deleted the joke of an entry for the salon article and the phoebe entry. 200 people and some non-asian people figured out that white men don't have an asian fetish in a study that does not even specifically test for asian fetish? the scientific method is grade school stuff that these columbia grads can't grasp. Some how white men can not be racist for a specific race (asians and whites) but racist for others (blacks)? Same goes for asian females, so they can be not be racist against white but racist against blacks? Then you have another entry where some east asian female, phoebe, married to an non-east asian man claiming that asian fetish can help asian women? that's like saying racism can help minorities. And yes asians can be racist against asians. Why haven't Saranghae honey deleted these entries? Tkguy (talk) 00:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't need all this on my talk page. I'm not involved with the article. I don't need statistics. If they're backed by reliable sources, they can go into the article, otherwise, they can't. The external links section is completely ridiculous. If it's not trimmed down to less than 5 in the next couple days, I'll do it myself. I prefer those of you working on the article do it because you guys should know which are most appropriate. Look at WP:EL. Lara❤Love 01:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
He continues to accuse me of pushing my "agenda" in the article. I don't know what to do anymore. миражinred (talk) 16:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Physical attractiveness

Hi. I noticed your GA review of physical attractiveness. If you'd care to stop by and volunteer your opinion on the latest talk page issue there, it would be appreciated.--Loodog (talk) 22:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah

For a minute or two; on my in-laws computer. no chat access... --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Weird-ass shit, but seems to meet all criteria. Its well written, well referenced, and neutral. I'd pass it if it were me. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Looks like a recent creation. Looks like you and chip are collaborating on it. Good job. Have you nominated it for DYK? --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

questions

Okay a) how did you get the breast-cancer ribbon behind the globe? 3) where did you get the cool Wikipedia t-shirt? Φ) Merry Christmas! Chris (クリス) (talk) 06:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

a. <span style="background:#ffffff;position:absolute;top:-45px; left:-165px;z-index:-3">[[Image:example.jpg|164px]]</span>
3. http://cafepress.com
Φ. Thanks, Merry Christmas to you! Lara❤Love 06:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Physical attractiveness

Thank you.--Loodog (talk) 23:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

OMGz

so liek i was blocked and then this relly kewl admin (me) leik unblocked me and then i had irc chatz with kittahz, and tehn, comma, it was ok, and tehn i had 30% of dleteing myslef, but didnt and then i went to bed, but before that i realizd that i adore u. happy holidays from teh drunks (some irc room in which is not named but has lulz). i realize none of this makes teh sense, but if it did, i would not be who i am, and im teh_artichoke. hic. teh_undertoes. the_undertow talk 12:15, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

That may be the single best contribution I have made to not just this project, but to the world in general. Go artichoke! the_undertow talk 02:36, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta GA On Hold

Comments are left here. Cheers and Merry Christmas. miranda 22:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

A friendly note

Hello LaraLove, I just wanted to say that I'm glad I ultimately supported your RfA. I think you've made a fine administrator, and I'm sorry for initially doubting you. I hope you have a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Best wishes. Acalamari 02:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. :) That's very thoughtful! Merry Christmas. Lara❤Love 02:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome, and thank you. :) Acalamari 03:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Conversely, I'm regretful that I opposed. Remember to keep it cool ;) — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
You're fired. :p Lara❤Love 04:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
No wai. — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:51, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Peer review for Hilary Duff article

I know that u have stated on top of this page, not to request for reviewing GAC and FAC but are u still "Peer reviewing" articles? The thing is i nominated Hilary Duff article for GA and it has passed its GA nomination. I intend to push it for FA status but before that i want someone unfamiliar with the article to go through it (peer review) so that anything i might have missed is noted and improved at this stage. Also i found ur name on the peer review volunteers list...thats why i'm asking. I guess the article is broad in its coverage, well sourced and referenced, and well written. But still i'd like it to go through a peer review. Thanks...Gprince007 (talk) 15:43, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm still doing peer reviews. I'll look at it this week. Lara❤Love 16:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanx for your quick response....you can check out the concerns raised during its GA nomination on its talk page. Of all the concerns raised, only one couldnt be addressed. Maybe u could help. Also any suggestions on improving the article are welcome.Thanks again...Gprince007 (talk) 17:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Y Done

Hi

Merry Christmas or Happy holidays (or Happy <insert holiday here>). Hope you are having a good one. Mine is great so far. Take care, and Happy New Year when it comes. Also, congrats on your promotion. If only I had known... But too busy to stay on wikipedia. Oh well, you passed, and I'm certain you will make a fine Admin. Take care! Orane (talk) 17:55, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

GAN Layout

I kind of copied the GAN layout of your past eval. nom. page. I hope you don't mind. Merry Christmas. miranda 21:25, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. Lara❤Love 21:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
When are you going to check back on the article? Lara❤Love 21:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you want me to check ASAP, before the deadline? Whichever the case, message me on my talk page. miranda 07:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta

An article you created, eh? Hmm, that's funny and I was looking through the edits, and it looks like it was created by someone else. I'm not quite sure who this creator is, but I bet he would sell out his own grandmother for a free ham! You gremlin. the_undertow talk 02:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

STFU. Where did I say I created it? Goes to check wording on user page. Lara❤Love 02:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I fixed it. <3 Lara❤Love 03:00, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Articles I created:
“ Knitta (o yeah, the_undertow did a edit or somethin.) ”
Dieu et les Dames, the_undertow talk 03:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Dude, that's not even how I meant it. Haha. That section is for articles that I've greatly contributed to... it was poorly titled. Muh bad. *puppydog eyes* You know I wouldn't try to take credit for your awesome work, sweets! I just couldn't do it. I gave you credit on the DYK nom, ya know... that's right. Cause I think of this shit. Did you realize that "this" and "shit" are an anagram.. never thought about it. Good times. Lara❤Love 03:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta, please! Must. Have. Ham. L8r, _Love. 'Good Times' can also be 'Smite Doog.' the_undertow talk 03:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
You're obsessing over this ham. You really should check out Honey Baked Ham when you're on the east coast. You'd probably lose yourself. Lara❤Love 03:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
noob, we have them all over. Wake up. Face me... 64.147.0.70 (talk) 14:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
You crushed me with a single stroke. Prepare for battle. the_undertow talk 19:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Bring it. Lara❤Love 19:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Just gimme a sec. the_undertow talk 23:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

(←) Would you like a Rum & Coke? Lara❤Love 23:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes please, and when I've finished the beverage, perhaps I could interest you in my faith and admiration? the_undertow talk 00:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Eh, I don't like others to put their faith on me, ya know? But I'll take the admiration. Lara❤Love 00:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Being German, I'm always prepared. I feel there are things about me you may not want to explore. Regretfully, the_undertow talk 02:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I got nothing to respond to that. Haha. Lara❤Love 02:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Elvis

Thanks for your concern. This matter has been rehashed ad nauseam on the Talk page. There seems to be enough agreement to start fixing the mess. This was one of the most offensive paragraphs (I assume you're talking about the Elvis' Sex Life paragraph?) It seems to be agreed that it is now time to start cleaning up the mess. Why don't you join in and clean up some of the other stuff? We sure could use some help. We've been knuckling under to the person's obsessions for about a year now, and that's quite long enough, don't you think? Or do you have another plan that might work better? Hoserjoe (talk) 08:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

That's amusing. If you'd actually read the talk page, you'd see that I've created a WikiProject for Elvis and we're working on the article. Your changes have been discussed ad nauseum, in that you are correct, and I recall consensus was not in favor of said changes, and you stopped contributing some time after suspicions of sockpuppetry were raised. The article just came out of full protection because of a content dispute earlier this month. Don't force it to be locked again. Lara❤Love 16:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Phoenix-wiki

Need your advice...

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Good

morning. the_undertow talk 14:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 :) I would reply on your talk page, but the colors mess with mine eyes. Haha. Good morning, Lara❤Love 14:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
WHAT EV- chip talk 14:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Do I get a greeting from each of your personalities this morn? Lara❤Love 15:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello... here's a peer review

Sorry for this unsolicited request, but when I found out that you particular strength is polishing articles I just had to thank god and spam here, You see I have worked long and hard on the Sitakunda Upazila article (including creating a host of articles around it, mostly on plant and fish species), and taken it to Wikipedia:Peer review/Sitakunda Upazila/archive1 (and, spammed around a bit). Many of the users I usually can depend on are on extended Wikibreaks (tears).

So far the review I have is fair, but I remember the first featured article I worked on, Shahbag, had much better response, including reviewers lending a hand where necessary (yes, particularly in the area of good prose). Would you, please, take a look at the review and the article? I beg of you, really, and I promise to meet every suggestion you'd make as far as I can.

You don't know me, yet, but I feel mighty confident making this request as I have gone through much research on you before daring to make the request (well, my last bout of spamming on a non-free image met a bit of irritation I didn't expect). Thanks :) Aditya(talk • contribs) 16:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I dropped out of GA because of the hundreds of reviews I did on topics I don't know much about or have any particular interest in, which burned me out on article reviews. I'm listed as a peer reviewer, but only for specific topics of interest. I'm sorry. Lara❤Love 16:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Sure. Reviewing the unknown is real messy business. Well, just one look at the organization/structure would be more than adequate. I am a bit lost on structuring all the info in a smooth flow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.14.214.136 (talk) 08:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for lending a hand there. And sorry for the unsigned comment made while not even logged in. That was all because of trying to do this through WAP. Darn. Aditya(talk • contribs) 23:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

The account

Yes, thanks for telling me about that account. :) There seems to be someone going around at the moment creating usernames that spell out the usernames of administrators that have blocked them. Names that spell out "Ryulong" and "Misza13" exist. My own spoofer list is getting bigger now that I seem to be included in the group of administrators that has their usernames spelled out. :) Thanks again. Acalamari 18:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and yes, I will get around to an archiving of my talk page soon. :) Acalamari 18:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I've not gotten spoofs yet. But I was included in a username with Phaedriel and PersianPoetGal. Good times. Lara❤Love 18:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment on Asian fetish

I nominated Asian fetish for RfC as the dispute between Tkguy and me continue to occur. (accusations about me having an agenda which continues to persist and please see his edit summaries at Asian fetish.) However, the RfC bot seems to be malfunctioning. (Other users have been reporting the same problems with RfC) Can you provide some early comments at the talk page of Asian fetish please? миражinred 22:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta

[2][3] FYI. The diff I link to in my ES points to your message, which has since been removed from her talk page (by her). Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 08:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

GAN review of Knitta

Break ups are always so hard, but it's just not working out. We've drifted apart and I think it's time we went our separate ways. Don't blame yourself... we just have different goals. Anyway, I've boxed all your things up and left them by the door. I'm only taking Knitta with me. You can keep anything else you may have of mine. Sorry for the sadness this may bring, but I think it's best for us both this way. Lara❤Love 20:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay...I don't understand, but okay... miranda 03:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
(/me taking a deep breath)...
First, I "decoded your cryptic message"...finally. Second, I really don't appreciate this edit, for several reasons: 1.) I took out my time to assess the article out of my free time. 2.) I used the icons to finally assess the article, since you asked me to assess it early. 3.) It was very rude. Also, I did not understand the "message" above on my talk page, until I looked at that edit, which was very hurtful to me. It's like, "there isn't a user reviewing this article, when in actuality there is one." However, this is Wikipedia, not real life. So, I guess I should take your "edit" as a grain of salt? But, in the words of Linkin Park, "in the end...it doesn't even matter." Thanks for wasting my time. miranda 08:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I told you these things are hard. And I apologized for any sadness it may have caused you. It's simply a matter of different goals. I want a GA quality article, you want words like "trees" and "pink" wikilinked. I spent more time reviewing and reverting your changes than you did reviewing and making changes. So it's really more about my wasted time than yours, but you're welcome all the same. Best regards, Lara❤Love 15:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, leave me alone. Go worry about your own article. But, leave me alone and let me have my own peace This was unnecessary. Take all of my talk pages, whatever is related to me off of your watchlists. If you post on my page, you will be reverted. miranda 17:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Your attitude and bad faith are unnecessary. And I'm pretty sure everyone knows the risk of reversion when posting to your talk page. That aside, I don't watchlist anything regarding you. Lara❤Love 19:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query On 28 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Knitta, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Dear LaraLove, here is a little note to say thank you for your kind support on my request for adminship which succeeded with a final result of (72/19/6).

Now that I am a sysop, do not hesitate to contact me with any queries you have. I would be glad to help you along with the other group of kind and helpful administrators.

Thank you again and I look forward to editing alongside you in the future. — E talk 12:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Knitta - GA prospect

Hey, I have a few comments about this articles GAN, so if you've got time, would you come on to IRC, I'm in #Ariel'scorner if you want to speak there, as I have a few improvement suggestions. Cheers, Qst 15:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

me+coding=no bueno

Okay, I did it wrong. <span style="background:#ffffff;position:absolute;top:-45px; left:-165px;z-index:-3">[[Image:example.jpg|164px]]</span> just showed the code. Should I take the no-wikis out? :) Chris (クリス) (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I just went to your page and it appears you got it to work. Let me know if you need anything else. Lara❤Love 04:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm working/playing with it. I like yours better. Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
What do you want it to look like? Lara❤Love 04:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Definitions

Threat versus warning. Compare those. You have been warned several times on both this page and the Coker talk page about your behavior, by me and others. Focus on the task at hand, stop changing other's words around, making obviously inappropriate assumptions about others opinions, calling names, etc. You've been uncivil and disruptive. Lara❤Love 19:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I in turn have tried to reach consensus on an issue where rampant excuses and obstructionism are all I've seen in return. Call them threats or warnings -- there's very little semantic difference -- I've gotten them for alleged violations of WP:3RR, WP:NPOV, WP:BLP and loads more, all because of the hypocritical insistence that i have some sort of "agenda". Yet even you must realize that it's all a deliberate excuse to avoid dealing with facts, the kind of facts backed up by reliable and verifiable sources that we demand on Wikipedia. If you have a genuine interest in finding the appropriate wording to meet your unrealistic and unjustifiable demands to fit your selective misinterpretation of Wikipedia policy, I will do what I can to fulfill them. If you refuse to cooperate in reaching consensus, please get out of the way and stop interfering with this article. That's not a warning; just basic decency. Alansohn (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Knock off the disrespect. I'm not going to "get out of the way and stop interfering" because you can't grasp what you're being told. I offered an alternative. If you don't like it, post an alternative that you find appropriate, and do it in a respectful manner. That is how consensus is built. Your behavior is disruptive and counter-productive. I can't more clearly lay out my position, yet you can't seem to get past your bad faith assumptions and see it for what it is. I'm not an obstructionist. I don't know this guy past what I've read in the article. The point is, whether you believe it or not, for legal reasons, we can't present quotes of living persons out of context. And save the whole "That's crap" reply, I've already read it the many times you've presented it. And, frankly, I'm tired of repeating myself. I have offered an alternative that is sufficient for this article. If getting this quote showcased is so important, check out Wikiquote. Lara❤Love 21:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I have already said I will use your suggested framework and described how I will add the quote, with appropriate context. Are you still pushing the nonsense that this is a WP:BLP issue or not? To quote WP:BLP "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article — even if it's negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it.". Can you point me to one case where Wikipedia -- or any other entity -- has ever been successfully sued for using a quote taken straight from the source's mouth? Do you truly believe that you are protecting Wikipedia or do you have another agenda to prevent information that you feel is negative from appearing in this article? Alansohn (talk) 21:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in here, but Alansohn your comments are now bordering on WP:LEGAL. Lara has been very civil and I think you need to cool it please. Pedro :  Chat  21:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Your buddy LaraLove has been pushing the false claim that there is some sort of legal issue here related to WP:BLP. You've got to be kidding that you think that I have threatened any sort of legal action here, which is what WP:LEGAL addresses, clearly stating "Do not make legal threats on Wikipedia." Are you actually claiming that this is what you think is going on? That this is coming from someone who is a Wikipedia administrator only makes the claim utterly unbelieveable. Alansohn (talk) 21:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
1) "Do you truly believe that you are protecting Wikipedia or do you have another agenda to prevent information that you feel is negative from appearing in this article.." is borderline. Words like "has ever been successfully sued for using a quote" is also borderline. 2) Lara and I are a long, long way from being buddies - we've had mega bust ups in the past - but that does not prevent me from commenting for what is right. 3) The point is that Lara has been deeply civil and accomodating here, and you have not been. 4) With WP:BLP caution is the watchword. Administrators, of which Lara is a fine and capabal one, are entrusted to use that caution. Pedro :  Chat  21:30, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Pedro.
Alansohn, you still don't get it. "If an allegation or incident is notable, relevant, and well-documented by reliable published sources, it belongs in the article — even if it's negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it." So true. However, it must be in context. Unless I have missed something, your alternative is an entire section devoted to this one quote. The way you had it was out of context and made him appear as if he was speaking of the country as a whole and not just his captors. I have gone over this ad nauseam. It is then a BLP issue because you are misrepresenting him and his comments. Not to mention, this quote is not even necessary. As I noted, it's not a shocker to find out that he harbors negative feelings toward the people who tortured him. So just say that he's commented on it and cite the movie as the reference. Or use my alternative presented on the talk page or something close. But stop running around in circles because this is seriously the last time I repeat myself. The quote will not be in the article out of context, and without consensus there will not be an entire section in a short article devoted to such an insignificant detail. Lara❤Love 04:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Tiny & Tweeny Question

How can i make a customzied signature? Can you make me one? --FadedSoul (talk) 21:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

What would you like it to look like? If you've seen one that you like, let me know whose it is and how you would like yours compared to it. Lara❤Love 04:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'd like the letters Faded in #000080 and it points to my userpage and Soul in #0000CD and in uppercase and it points to my talk page... Can you tell me what's the code hun? Thanks! --FadedSoul (talk) 17:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay this:

'''[[User:FadedSoul|<font color="#000080">Fa</font><font color="#0000CD">de<font color="#1E90FF">d</font>So</font>ul</font>]]'''[[User talk:FadedSoul|<math>a^n</math>]]

produces this: FadedSoulan

How's that? If not right, tell me how you want it tweaked. Lara❤Love 19:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, can you make the link to the talk page like this: an, you know the n being small and upwards? --FadedSoul (talk) 02:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, revised above. How's that? Lara❤Love 04:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Perfect! I love it! ☃ ☺☺☺☺☺☺ Have a nice happy new year! --FadedSoul (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll adapt it and i'll keep you posted... Somehow it gets screwy... I'll look into it :) Thanks hun! --FadedSoul (talk) 15:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Outside view requested

Two months ago, someone suggested that I try to create a GA-worthy article. I waited until I happened upon a topic that was worthy of an article but which surprised me because one did not already exist. Having worked on the article, I would appreciate an outside opinion from someone who has nothing to do with the comics articles but is very knowledgeable with regard to GA articles. If you don't mind, would you please take a glance at The Reign of the Superman? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Doczilla (talk) 08:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy to review it. the_undertow talk 09:43, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Can someone block dis copycat sig plz.

so i just go it from this party and they were palying this gaem. it has cards where it gives a word. Apples to Apples. evry answer was liek adolph hitler or the backstreet boys.

let me rewind. before that i was bringing an article to GA. i was doing good at that shit.

then i voted at Gig's RfA. the chronology is seemingly not consequential. these peeps are not my gang, they are neighbors. im leik not in a gang, but we all have orange county tacked on us so it's a gang, but it's not that bad. im not a gangster, just it a gang. see? ok so they are bangers too. that makes sense. we are notbad. but my guitar is teh good.

then i came here, and now im typing, regretting bothereing you with this whole thing, but then i think, hmmmm. cant be that bad. cuz can this be that bad? then i think, ill wake up and think OMG? BUT:

No more OMG. No more WTF? Just 5am and just, for some reason, lettin you know how my night was. thats it. its cool can i block dis copycat sig? o but i forgot. deja vu. fuck. i hate that. that chick i was tellin you about. she is into me, cuz she told me. so thats good. too long single, right? but yer advice is good cuz yer always right, and she likes me and even though we have been talking, liek i told you, she went to the trouble of putting somethin in the mail for me. i thin its the first time in my leif that i want someone to have my babies? is this long? ya. it is. shit ill be asleep till march. ahh. but hey, at least im loved, and this chick, was even liek, i have an account on wikipedia. for realz? its funny cuz she thinks i have a 'california' accent. which is bullshit. whatev.dood. im srs, whatev. im gonna talk to her laters today, so i will let you know. fingers croseed? the_undertow talk 12:44, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

OMG, d0od, you're too funny... haha. Never regret drunk dialing my talk page, 'cause this shitz is funneh as hellz. Makes my mornings. So okay, I've never heard of the game before, but it sounds like fun, with the Adolph Hilters and Backstreet Boys. Good times. Uhm, would the GA be the one listed in the section above this? Or are you talking about Knitta? Haha. I haven't stalked your contribs yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out when I do.
So, yea... I'll skip the gang shitz, I already be knowin' all dat. And, as for the chick, I told you she liked you. It's obvious. And hopefully you don't sleep until March... then you wouldn't be able to talk to her tonight, so that would defeat the purpose of sleeping with your fingers crossed, which I'm sure is kind of painful. So, is this account a vandal account, because that would be like forbidden love. An admin and a vandal... bad teims! Oh, and just an FYI, you live in Orange County, California and have for liek ever, so I'd have to say you do have a Cali accent. Just sayin'. Good luck. I hope it all works out with you and her.
Catch ya lata, Lara❤Love 16:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Sup, Buttercup? I made a full recovery. I even slept until 4pm. What's great, is that it's time to do it all over again! Drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and block! Soooo good to see you..... the_undertow talk 03:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanx for Peer review of Hilary Duff article

Just wanted to thank you for ur fast and quick response to my request for peer review of Hilary Duff article. I've addressed the major points raised by you. However, i couldnt address two points raised by you and the reasons for the same have been given here. I'll be copyediting the article again to improve any MoS/style issues which may have escaped my eye. Constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement are always welcome....Thanks again. Gprince007 (talk) 15:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello

The Barnstar of Good Humour
:D Dashing Maxim (talk) 17:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Haha. Thanks. :) Lara❤Love 17:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Knitta on Delancey M-cropped.jpg

Yo, what name is this image on Commons? Because it was deleted while still linked in an article but the name is different. Lara❤Love 19:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Which article? Check the history to see what the previous name was before DYK set up the cropped image. In any case, I can find NO articles that use the temporarily-uploaded cropped version of the image. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Please unprotect the Peter Yarrow article.

OK ?? Albion moonlight (talk) 01:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

It's protected because it's disputed. What do you plan on doing anyway? You know, if you really need to make an edit, the RFPP cabal may be able to help. —BoL 01:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Where am I? My talk page? Yes, okay... had to double check. So yea, go file a request at WP:RPP. Lara❤Love 04:00, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually your the one that protected it and added the message that it was only going to be protected for a week. [4]. Albion moonlight (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Protection automatically expires. The template has to be removed manually, although a bot eventually gets around to it. However, the article could be edited already. Lara❤Love 04:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I think the 1 week protection turned out to be a good Idea. Thanks again.: Albion moonlight (talk) 05:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. My initial reply was not directed to you, by the way. I was playfully noting that in seeing BoL replying on my talk page, I may not be on my own talk page. Like going to work and finding someone else sitting at your desk responding to your email, ya know? Lara❤Love 05:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I didn't notice that at first but It does help explain things. Happy New Year to you and yours. : Albion moonlight (talk) 06:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Smile

—trey(wiki) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks, Trey. Lara❤Love 17:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Beautiful Women and Other Terrible Things

I'm okay. I could use a little sleep before I start my day. I'll catch you in a few. the_undertow talk 19:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Duck Soup peer review

Hi again, LaraLove! I've recently submitted Duck Soup for peer review in order to find out some better ways to improve the article's (and other Marx Brothers' articles) quality. If you're interested in leaving feedback, you can go to the article's talk page and follow the link. Thanks. — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 03:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Bah. Late to the party. I looked over the article and went to start my review and saw it's already all been said. Lara❤Love 21:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Hi Lara. You're currently protecting your user page with cascading on, and this might unnecessarily or unintentionally protect pages you're currently transcluding on there, including User:StatusBot/Status/LaraLove, which will disallow the bot to update it. Just letting you know. Cheers, Spebi 07:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi :) I am taking the liberty to remove the cascading, since it effectively cascades templates that are outside your userspace (Template:User borderline and User:StatusBot/Template). I fear you'll have to protect everything by hand (that's the safest). Regards, -- lucasbfr ho ho ho 12:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Eep, thanks. The point was to protect everything, but I didn't realize it would cause issues. It's no big deal. I'm typically not a target of vandalism, but one established user is apparently pissed with me and feels the need to mess with my stuff. Thanks for fixing it. Lara❤Love 14:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Love

You added the brc to the protection cat, so i went ahead and protected the page. I don't see any reason why it needs to be edited by anyone other than yourself. Feel free to change to a diff level, if you see fit. Night the_undertow talk 08:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It was protected via my userpage with cascading enabled, but, as you can see above, I fucked up other things with that. Learn something new everyday, reason 2 3 of why I love this place. Anyway, I agree with you. We need to make arrangements to move it to the website. Do we have a web designer in the cabal? Lara❤Love 15:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I guess I could pull out my resume, if need be. [5] I don't wanna design a site! I don't wanna! Let just do it in nuke like [6]. easy to install and no bullshit. the_undertow talk 19:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
The Irony. Guess what I do to earn a few quid........! Pedro :  Chat  20:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I shall discuss this with The Worshipful Master and get back to you forthwith. We have a website. It's just a matter of Build it and they will come. Lara❤Love 20:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Am I hearing this correctly?

This guy Hiroki is talking on the phone to someone in Japan. I can't understand shit, you know, not speaking Chinese an all, and out of the blue I hear, "Ya. Ya. Jimmy Page's autograph!" Do you think I just started understanding Korean, or was he speaking English, or is this some weird coincidence? chip talk 20:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

That is the most random shit. First of all, is it Japanese, Chinese or Korean? This is important for me to know before I can judge. Names don't change, okay? I mean, 'cause I hear the Mexicans at work talking shit about people and they always leave the English name. "Ya" is the Asian equivalent of "yes", I know this from watching Heroes. So, sorry to break the news, but you're no phenomenon, Juan Travolto. Lara❤Love 20:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
LaraLove, I'm Korean, and I don't think that's true! People say "Ya" when they are addressing someone informally in Korea.. Happy New Year's by the way. And thank you for your help in the RfC which brought the article Asian fetish to other editors' attention. миражinred 04:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Ha, I was just being facetious, lol. But, yea, no problem. Glad to help. Lara❤Love 05:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy 2008!

Hey-ya, Sorry for my absence, I've been kicking around on a (well-deserved) holiday:). Hmmm, not sure as to why the thing covers then other thing on my page, it shows up fine on FireFox 2? Pfft, I'm lazy, you can fix it if you want or just have the userbox. Duuude, IRC confuses the hell out of me - have been on once though, so many freak-outs. The Bathrobe Cabal is coming along really well, when did we get a URL?

И This user harbors a deep mutual resentment and/or a general dislike of Dfrg.msc.

What did you end up doing for NYE?

Cheers! Dfrg_msc 23:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

PS, Nice Wikipedia T-shirt! Dfrg_msc 23:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)