Talk:Large family car

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[edit] Not so large

No doubt due to high fuel taxes large cars such as the Ford Scorpio have disappeared from many countries, especially in Europe. However in some parts of the world, notably Australia and the USA, 'full size' cars are still produced and most of the cars described in this article are actually perceived, and marketed, as mid size cars in those markets. For example in Australia the Ford Mondeo (discontinued here some years ago but soon to be relaunched as a mid size car) sits below the Ford Falcon in size category. The Holden (Vauxhall) Vectra, which is smaller than the Holden Commodore, has all but disappeared from the market although its stablemate, the Astra, is very successful, being sold as a small car; a popular choice with young single professional people and retired couples - i.e. no kids --MichaelGG 07:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC).

Also, I note that in an earlier version of this article there was a picture of our Australian Ford Falcon which was removed by someone who made the comment "The Ford Falcon is not a large family car. In fact the Ford Falcon IS a large family car, in Australia. Why was it removed? --MichaelGG 07:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why not discuss in the discussion area?

Dear well-meaning editors,

This article was created to describe the British car class referred to as large family car. This is its sole intent and purpose. In a way, it can be seen as describing the classification in entire Europe, as most classification systems used in different European countries/languages mirror the British one and we won't go into details such as what a Mittelklassewagen or D-segment is in the English Wikipedia. The pan-European EuroNCAP organization also uses this term (and other British terms) in their car classification, which is, as of 2008, perhaps the only unified official car division by class in Europe, such as USA's EPA.

So, this article does NOT deal with similar cars or classes in other parts of the world. As mentioned, the same cars which fall into this classification can be referred to as mid-size cars in the US (there is a separate article for this class, which can be seen as corresponding, but not as entirely equivalent), and perhaps can, or can not, be seen as large cars in Australia. They are also somewhere between size 2 and size 5 in Japan if memory serves me well. That said, this article talks about the European large family car class, so whether a Ford Mondeo is this or another thing outside of Europe is of interest to the Ford Mondeo article and perhaps an article on the relevant class.

I guess it might be advisable to create an article on the Australian "large car" class, if there are enough sources to back it (I admit this article sorely lacks it, but at least the EuroNCAP site confirms the existence of such class).

Kind regards,

PrinceGloria (talk) 09:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)