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[edit] Thanks

Wow, nice job with the complete overhaul of this article. Much, much better than the previous one.

Thanks for the kind words of support.--Lacatosias 08:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I notice that you've edited a few philosophy articles. Have you considered joining the Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy? It is an effort to coordinate the work of Wikipedians who are knowledgeable about philosophy in an effort to improve the general quality and range of Wikipedia articles on philosophical topics.--Lacatosias 08:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration on Physicalism

Okay, I'll wait for you on this project; You can divide up the work, and I'll take what you give me. Here's a link to that article D Hill 21:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I have part of the article, Token and Type physicalism; tell me if its complete enough (it's on my user page). D Hill 22:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the problems with my part of the article are based on my poor skills in transcription; I was trying not to say exactly what was on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. It seems though, that at least there is not problem with missing information! I'll try and make it sound better though D Hill 19:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, firsly, I didn't steal Type physicalism from another article, another article exists and I used it to improve the article. Secondly, try the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy if you get the chance. I'll try and begin work on A priori/A posteriori. D Hill 22:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I worked on A priori/A posteriori. If you found anything on the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy (IEoP), let me know. D Hill 02:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've hit a snag. I began work on the arguments for physicalism, and now have a problem explaining the exclusion principle, could you check if you get the chance. D Hill 22:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I was able to translate that chart auf Deutscher Wikipedia, you can check it on my user page D Hill 21:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Physicalism (English)

Physicalism is the metaphysical thesis that everything that exists is physical. Generally, the physical is defined as anything that can be described by the science of physics. From this, physicalism rejects immaterial theories of consciousness in philosophy of mind, and other non-physical entities such as platonic forms or ontological mathematics. Dualism, pluralism, subjective idealism, and neutral monism all stand against Physicalism.

The concept “Physicalism” is often used synonymously with the concept of materialism. In current debates in cognitive science and philosophy of mind, the concept of “Physicalism” is preferred, as the term materialism has misleading ethical connotations and is also thought of as too restrictive. For instance, traditional materialism states that everything is composed of matter. However, Physicalism holds that matter is not necessarily the fundamental building block of reality, and that future physical theories may explain or further describe phenomena that are not commonly thought of as material such as gravity or space-time.

Otto Neurath was influential in establishing physicalism in a series of treatises in the first half of the 20th century. Physicalism had an enormous influence on the Viennese circle in which many were crtiical of theories of metaphysics.

Physicalism (German)

Unter Physikalismus versteht man in der Philosophie die metaphysische These, dass alles, was es gibt, physisch ist. Als physisch gelten dabei alle Entitäten, die in den Theorien der Physik beschrieben werden. Daraus folgt die Ablehnung eines immateriellen Bewusstseins und anderer nichtphysischer Entitäten, wie platonischer Ideen oder eigenständig existierender Zahlen. Der Theorie des Physikalismus stehen Dualismen, Pluralismen und nichtphysikalistische Monismen - etwa der Idealismus oder der neutrale Monismus - gegenüber.

Der Begriff „Physikalismus“ wird oft synonym mit dem Begriff des Materialismus verwendet. In den aktuellen Debatten der Wissenschaftstheorie und Philosophie des Geistes ist dabei der Begriff „Physikalismus“ üblich, während man im Kontext philosophiehistorischer Darstellungen vom Materialismus spricht. Allerdings gibt es auch gewisse inhaltliche Unterschiede: Während der traditionelle Materialismus auf die These festgelegt ist, dass alle Entitäten aus kleinsten Materieteilchen zusammengesetzt seien, möchte der Physikalismus der Physik nicht a priori vorschreiben, welche Entitäten sie letztlich als grundlegend postuliert. So wäre der Physikalismus auch mit dem Ergebnis kompatibel, dass die Physik letztlich Entitäten postuliert, die nicht korrekt als Materie beschrieben werden können - etwa Gravitationskräfte.[1]

Der Begriff des Phyikalismus wurde insbesondere durch Otto Neurath in einer Reihe von Aufsätzen in der ersten Hälfte des 20. Jahrhunderts geprägt [2]. Er hatte mit dieser Konzeption einen enormen Einfluss auf den Wiener Kreis, in dem zunächst eine metaphysikkritische Einstellung vorgeherrscht hatte.

~Tja, Is that a decent translation? Granted, I took away and added a few things here and there..--Laplace's Demon 02:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, firstly; translation is good. Also, since when does "many" mean "a majority". It merely means that there are a group of people who think of themselves a epiphenomenalists (remember my problems with transcription?). D Hill 21:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I've finished all my required parts. Now all that's left is to polish it up and add some links. D Hill 00:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned it up a little, and added another image. D Hill 21:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC) I came across another problem. I have been searching all across the internet for who developed the idea of token physicalism. Do you know who it is or where I could find it (keep in mind I've checked all the sources on the philosophy navagator). D Hill 00:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, firstly, I'll publish my half when you do, or once you've finished (then I would publish it first). You should probably know that I wrote most of the article on a word processor before puting it on my user page, so grammer and spelling probablly aren't much of the problem. Also, could we finish this up soon, so I can get all the text off of my userpage. D Hill 13:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, Nice work, but about the "Ontologically reductionist; I found a source that said that. And It was written by Ullin Place here is the source [1]. À bon chat, bon rat! D Hill 20:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Almost forgot, I'm going to publish my part of the article. Publish yours (or I'll publish mine) and then the other can put the article together. D Hill 20:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for short notice, but I'm publshing my half. You can publish yours when it's finished. D Hill 20:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bothering you, but I came up with our next collaboration; event. D Hill 21:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, expanding event was a bit easier than I thought. So, if you want to collaberate on any subject, send it my way. D Hill 02:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it. We can discuss later who gets what topics. D Hill 20:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Evil Daemon

hi. you are LESS liekly to get reverted IF you use the edit summary box. please do. thnak you.--Procrastinating@talk2me 16:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you can asnwe the question that I left in that artic'es talk page. Unix system use a process forking method called "daemon" too. what does your name mean?

[edit] Heidegger

Interesting, and strange since I was thinking of something similar thing about a week ago (i.e. Thinking philosophy is usesless is a philosophy of philosophy). It also helped me translate "Cogito ergo sum" into German: "Ich denke deshalb ich bin da" (Dasein). By the way, I haven't gotten this password situation resolved yet. If the developers don't help me soon, could you help me convince them that I am user D Hill. 216.193.152.64 13:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


There aren't too many stories that haven't been done already. By the way, the novel I've been working on is almost finished, but it's only 7,000 words long at this point. It should be ready to read by July. J Hill 21:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)