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"[Lansdowne Road] is also the second oldest international football venue still in regular use after the Millennium Stadium." What?! The Millennium Stadium was only built in 1999! Removed. Grunners 15:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] New Lansdowne

Should the new image of Lansdowne be removed. It is highly misleading considering that the new stadium has not been built yet and therefore this picture is not accurate. I propose a picture of the present stadium be left here until the new stadium is complete.--Play Brian Moore 01:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

A picture of current Lansdowne shoul be in the caption but a picture of new Lansdowne should also be included on the page. Tunney 01:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes - I think it makes much more sense to show the current stadium, and then go on to describe the redevelopment with the new picture. Dugo 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

You know instead of discussing it, why doesnt some one just go ahead and get a picture, tag it right and put it in the article. Thr were pictures before, be that jave since been deleted.--Boothy443 | trácht ar 00:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Because, the system won't let me upload a picture.--Play Brian Moore 00:57, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Done Rcnet 09:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What I edited (Rcnet)

Has anyone got a legit to use image for Lansdowne, having that rendering there is wrong - especially as other stats in the info box refer to current capacity, not the "maybe" renovation. The render could be used elsewhere in this article - but it's current usage is misleading - it is not what Lansdowne looks like - it's what it might look like. This should be used in the reconstruction section.

I changed: "Renovated 2005–2009" to "Renovation (estimated start, completion)". Tense problems, and offers the 2009 date as fact, not goal. Changed 2005 to 2007, see http://www.lrsdc.ie/schedule/default.asp?NCID=63 The planning process is not actual Renovation.

I deleted: "Original Construction Cost IR£" no value there and I don't have one.

I edited "Reconstruction Cost", adding "Estimated", I can't think of a single Irish building project having an accurate figure before it even began.

I was sorely tempted to delete the engineers and architects - as this could be misconstrued as the ones for the CURRENT stadium. I instead qualified it as "(reconstruction)", this isn't great - can someone come up with a better way of handling this?

Added link to owner's site in external links.

Fixed bad spelling and spacing errors Rcnet 08:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Changed images, this is not a great shot, but it's accurate - we should find another current image.

Deleted this NONSENSE "although its use is currently temporarily suspended for renovation." Per: http://www.lrsdc.ie/fixtures/default.asp?NCID=62 AUGUST 2006 WED, 16 AUG Ireland v Netherlands

SEPTEMBER 2006

OCTOBER 2006 WED, 11 OCT Ireland v Czech Republic

NOVEMBER 2006 SAT, 11 NOV Ireland v South Africa WED, 15 NOV Ireland v San Marino SUN, 19 NOV Ireland v Australia SUN, 26 NOV Ireland v Pacific Island Rcnet 09:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do not mark stadium's as closed unless you know this for a fact. The day after you marked the stadium as closed, Ireland will play Australia there! Rcnet 09:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The last game is leinster v ulster on the 31/12/06 (Gnevin 12:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC))
Apologies if I made some errors., and becuase I came here from the Ireland football team page I was, erroneously, thinking in terms of the closure of the stadium, and that was, of course, premature. But I would like to think that I added considerably to the layout and content of the article, and would ask Rcnet to serious reconsider his tone in making future edit notes, and ask that he desist FROM SHOUTING. Kevin McE 17:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I apologise, the tone was way off and uncalled for. Incuidently Ireland won at Lansdowne Vs Australia today. There are a few more games to go Rcnet 23:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
They did indeed: a great result and it bodes well for the period of exile at Croke Park.Kevin McE 00:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soccer / Football

Football is not the proper term, this is a stadium in Ireland. The game is primarily referred to as Soccer in Ireland as is the case for many english speaking countries excluding the UK, as the most popular sport in Ireland, Gaelic Football is often known just as Football. Historically in the UK, the birthplace of the game of Football/Soccer, Football/Soccer was known as Association Football to differentiate it from what was then known as Rugby Football.

This is an article about a rugby stadium which is used occasionally for soccer which has no major stadium of it's own. The Soccer organisation is called the "Football" association, and this game is often referred to as football as well as soccer by it's Irish adherents - however amongst the population at large in Ireland - Football = GAA Football, not Soccer not Rugby Football.

Soccer is used here as it is the most common term in Ireland, is globally understood, and is the only possible term that can be considered an unambiguous word in Ireland. Soccer (number 2), like rugby (number 3, possibly 4), is a minority sport in Ireland. Soccer players and supportters do often refer to the game as Football in Ireland, however this is largely a result of the proximity of a major professional soccer nation such as England, and the resulting reliance on English media for coverage.

Had these been an article about the FAI, or an Irish soccer/football club, the use of football would have been more justifiable; as the game is called soccer by almost all but it's adherents in Ireland - football is a confusing term for thi sartcile about Rugby and a Rugby grounds, which is occasionally borrowed by Irish Soccer teams.

By way of example I would point to the largest media outlet in Ireland, http://www.rte.ie/sport/ from Radio_Telefís_Éireann where Soccer is used. Rcnet 04:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm Irish and most people use the term "Football" for both Assoc Football and Gaelic Football which can get confusing. Football should be the used term. Niall123 08:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
That comment doesnt make much sence , Football can get confusing so we should use football ? Instead of the disambigious term soccer ? (Gnevin 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC))


[edit] Use by FAI

Toword the end of the History section, the article says "From 1971, and exclusively from 1990 to 2006, the ground was used by the Football Association of Ireland for international matches." However, friendlies were played at RDS on February 18, 1992 against Wales, and at Tolka Park on February 17, 1993 against Wales. Seems to me the article is wrong. Am I missing something? Tarafuku10 19:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hope current edit addresses this to your satisfaction. Kevin McE 21:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your attention. The new edit leads to another concern. A friendly against Italy B was played at Lansdowne in 1927. I guess this was the first time the FAI leased the ground for a soccer match. I am translating the article into Japanese and I just want to make sure I understand things correctly. Tarafuku10 19:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genitive case

Why not Bó(tha)r Landsúin? Has someone been using a dictionary...?!

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:C1b3ef8a.jpeg

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[edit] Tense

The opening par says Lansdowne Road was... This to me seems incorrect. Surely a more accurate description would be Lansdowne Road is... After all the ground is being redeveloped - something quite clear from the article - suggesting it is still there one form another, so to talk about the venue in the past tense seems more than a little odd (especially where in the rest of the article it is still present tense) even if it is a building site at the moment. I've edited back for the time being, unless there are any objections. Does anyone know how this was handled with say Wembley? Dan K (talk) 00:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

You are correct - good point. (Sarah777 (talk) 05:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC))