Talk:Languages of Sweden

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Den här artikeln finns ännu inte på svenska, vore bra om någon kunde översätta den! Aaker 20:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Questions

  • 1. Are there really that many students of Arabic, Japanese and Russian? I would expect the number as very small besides immigrant groups and/or university students. (The number of German, Spanish and French students is high, though, mostly because it's generally mandatory somewhere between late Primary school and Gymnasium to study a 3rd language. Many or most fail to learn the 3rd language to any usable level, though.)
  • 2. Shouldn't the article mention something about major immigrant languages, such as Turkish, Arabic, Serbo-Croatian and Spanish etc. ? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 00:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  • 1. Also, I've read that Chinese also has become somewhat popular among lower grade students, maybe only at one or a few schools, but that's probably on the same level as Arabic and Russian, anyway. (Japanese is maybe somewhat more popular, due to its pop culture impact.) 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 19:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 80,000 "Scanian-speakers"

Also in this article the 80,000 speakers of Scanian are mentioned. Is there anyone out there who has the slightest idea who they are? The province has over 1,000,000 inhabitants. Most of them are born and raised there and they speak the dialect skånska, which is a regional variety of standard Swedish with some flavour of neighbouring Danish. But somewhere spread over the province there are 80,000 persons which are speaking this mysterious language. But who has really counted them and when was that count made? Are there any reliable sources? --Muniswede (talk) 22:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, by some observers, the more rural dialects are considered to be distinct enough to be classified as its own language, but still, there's a dialect continuum in these areas anyway, and the number seems grasped out of thin air. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 14:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes there is a dialect continuum and some dialects are perhaps a bit more "old fashioned" than others. If they could be classified as an own language is another question. But the "some observers" who have grasped the number 80,000 must have come to this result in some way. It would be interesting to know how they have found it out. Nothing could be found on the Internet. Ethnologue mentions the number, but they do not present any source, however. It must be considered "original research", which cannot be verified. --Muniswede (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jamtlandic loanwords?

Are the Jamtlandic loanwords really worth mentioning? Standard Swedish has borrowed relatively extensively fromDanish,German and French, anyway, and for now it seems the dialect is more heavily influenced than standard Swedish. it would be more interesting to note the dialect's peculiarities. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Immigrant languages" section

I have my doubts about the last section about immigrant languages. It sounds too much like ranting. I think the criterion of including only "native" minor languages had its basis in policies already formulated by the EU, not something the Swedish government itself had a major part in. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 18:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

See European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)