Talk:Languages of Arda

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[edit] "Feeling" languages

Tolkien had the ability to feel languages? This statement rates an 11 on the fawning index.

agree & rephrase ;) dab 15:49, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Naffarin

What about Naffarin? From what I read in a Tolkien biography, it resembles Spanish but I don't know enough to include it in the list. -- Error 22:46, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Not a Middle-earth language, but rather his first 'real' conlang. While some Naffarin apparently made it into Qenya (early Quenya), it is not related to the Quendi in any way. Anárion 06:05, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Entish

the paragraphs on "Entish" should be moved to Entish language as they clog up the List of languages. dab 15:49, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Removed to a paragraph in Ent instead. [[User:Anárion|Image:Anarion.png]] 16:08, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Erroneous article title

Middle-Earth is only one of the continents of the world in question, but this article also deals with languages exclusive to Aman (another continent). I would suggest that the entry be renamed Languages of Arda. --LRC 17:17, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, the title Languages of Arda would be more appropriate. ~Leia~

[edit] Tolkienian Linguistics FAQ

The link to the "The Tolkienian Linguistics FAQ" is somewhat idiosyncratic in its presentation and perhaps should not have such a prominent position in the link list? Maybe it can stay where it is and be named "Elvish Linguistic Fellowship’s Tolkienian Linguistics FAQ" (or something similar) to reflect its singular viewpoint?

[edit] Artificial?

Actually, artificial meaning man-made means all languages are artificial because they were all created by men.

[edit] The list

I've read that orcs don't actually have a language but just alter other languages along with speaking Black Speech. so wouldn't it be a waste to have orcs there basically twice.

[edit] Arda or Middle-earth?

Shouldn't this article be named Languages of Middle-earth rather than languages of Arda? I think that it has been agreed on using Middle-earth for all articles concerning Tolkien's universe. Galadh 17:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

See above where it was previously moved from that name to this. I think 'Middle-earth' is fine as the term is often used to refer to the whole of Tolkien's creation (as it was by JRRT himself), but there'll always be a few pointing out the more precise definition. --CBDunkerson 21:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philologist

Tolkien was a philologist and, in his mind, this was different from being a 'linguist'. In Letters, he states explicitly "I am not a linguist". Accordingly, I am changing linguist > philologist.