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3-2-04 I am trying to determine the historical relationship between "normal schools" and "land- grant universities"; for instance, Illinois State vs. Univ of Ill. Specifially, I'm wondering if it's possible to say that all or most normal schools were not land-grant universities. Can this be addressed in this article; or a new article written for "normal schools"? Or, just help in researching this would be appreciated. :-)

Shouldn't this be renamed land-grant university? "Land-grant" by itself doesn't mean "land-grant university," does it? (I don't know, maybe it does.)

I wrestled with that myself, LS. I settled on land-grant, sea-grant, and space-grant because both colleges and universities were involved and because I knew that if that didn't seem correct, you or Jimbo would make a more appropro suggestion. As far as I can tell (I performed a few searches on Google to double check myself and then read through the relevant Acts on Thomas), land-grant, sea-grant and space-grant issues refer to colleges and universities. However, my encyclopedic knowledge is limited and Wikipedia is my adventure in learning about a different style of writing and editing. So, if you've a better suggestion, I'll defer. :-) -Invictus

Well, it's up to whoever can convince the others that he knows what he's talking about.  :-) --LS

The Morrill Act specifically aimed at "practical" , not "liberal" arts, although its fine print did allow the so-created colleges to teach other stuff. Hence, I deleted the "liberal" reference (which the original writer tried to make read "liberal arts" according to the copy. The lack of space between "college' and "education" I can't seem to correct, as it goes between two lines of text on the work page.Sfahey 16:19, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] List of Universities (27/11/2004)

The list of universities at the bottom of the article is very redundant with the university template also displayed at the bottom. I would edit and remove it myself, but I figured I should ask first in case there's something I'm missing. Thanks. --DiGiT

FWIW, Big 12 Conference, Ivy League, etc. also have their respective templates at the bottom.... Cburnett 20:34, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Seems redundant in any case to me, but oh well. I'll leave it. DiGiT 00:57, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree about it being redundant. But at the moment only my almamatter has the template on it and I don't really want to spend the time linking the rest. :) So I suppose you could consider it a weak form of advertising that it's there. Maybe I'll get the motivation to do it some time and then remove the template.

Or perhaps look at it from the other hand. How can the bulleted list be improved (or even deleted) such that it's not redundant? Maybe listing it by state (some states have multiple colleges)? Cburnett 03:02, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Oldest (?) land grant university

Univ. of Maryland was founded way before MSU, and is considered a "land-grant" school. Anyway, the Morrill Act didn't come until much later. The recent edit is questionable. Sfahey 17:31, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Michigan State is the first, how come it was changed?
This page is out of control, with now five schools claiming essentially the same recognition, even WITHOUT UMaryland, which dates to ca. 1807 and is also a land grant institution. Any experts out there?Sfahey 20:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
The last time I studied land-grant universities was four years ago, so unfortunately I can't resolve this debate. But it seems to me that we need to draw a distinction between land-grant institutions that were founded under the auspices of the Morrill Acts and existing institutions that were simply assisted with Morrill Act grants. --Coolcaesar 23:59, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

And Rutgers isn't the oldest pre-existing university to receive a land grant. Yale (Sheffield Scientific School) is. Greener08 (talk) 17:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Land, Sea and Space Grants

I count at least 13 universities with all three of these designations:

I will change appropriate references at the three relevant pages to reflect this number. Any others? btm 08:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd love to know if there are some other references besides btm's own research. For example, the LSU article states there are 21. Earthsound 20:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)