Talk:Lancashire

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[edit] Archived talk

[edit] Ports and harbours of Lancashire

(moved to Category_talk:Ports and harbours of England by county)

[edit] New Towns

Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere? Lancashire was where many of the New Towns of the 1960s are located, as overflow towns for Liverpool and Manchester. I think it's important enough to be mentioned. AnthonyUK 23:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lancashire?

The article is way to involved with the 1974 boundary reform and reads as if the text has been compromised. I want to come here to read about the great places of Preston, Blackpool, Lancaster, Blackburn, Nelson, Fleetwood, Cockerham etc, not how bitter some people are about Merseyside and Greater Manchester and how the "Dutchy" is still inplace.

WP:UKCOUNTIES will give some indicators on where to take this, but currently, this article is one of the weakest about a county, which is a shame. -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link to Yell.com

Hi Tangerine,

We beleived we had provided a useful resource for visitors to the Lancashire wiki entry. We also believe that this is in line with guidelines. "Things you didn't know" is clearly unique, informative and adds value to this entry.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.39.10 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The idea is that content is added to wikipedia articles, not simply that external links to other sites are added on a number of articles. If the information in the link is a useful resource for users reading this article then that content itself, with citation, should be added to this article, thereby adding, in your words, informative content that then adds value to this entry, within the actual article. Please see WP:NOT#LINK and WP:SPAM. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 17:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sports

In continuing the trend regarding deleting historically Lancashire football teams that are now in the bollocks, sorry, ceremonial "county" of Greater Manchester, if no one disagrees, then I'm going to delete Lancashire County Cricket Team from the list of Lancashire Cricket Teams, because they're based in Greater Manchester. The name means nothing, and neither does the really really long history and association with Lancashire, apparently. It's all about its actual location.--El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 08:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand the point you are making, but this is just silly. There is a blatantly obvious connection between "Lancashire County Cricket Team" and "Lancashire", regardless of where it is located. Whereas the connection between, say, "Manchester United" and "Lancashire" is nowhere near as strong. In my view, such a connection could be made in the History of Lancashire article rather than here. --Dr Greg (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The point is, either Lancashire CCC is in Lancashire, and is directly relevant to this article, or it is not, and as far as Wikipedia is concerned, could be in York or London and be just as applicable to Lancashire. LCCC's ground is next door to Manchester United's ground, so either they're both in Lancashire, or neither of them are. It's that simple. --El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 16:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not just about physical location, it's also about its connections and associations. If there were some organisation based in New York that had a notable connection with Lancashire, it might be appropriate to mention in this article. --Dr Greg (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

So in that case then, an organisation which existed in Lancashire for 96 years before being geographically located in Greater Manchester would probably qualify? Where's the cut-off point? 100 years? 150 years? Also, does the fact that Lancashire CCC have only five players out of 24 who were born in Wikipedia's rather odd interpretation of "Lancashire" count against their "connections"? They have four from Yorkshire - maybe we should mention LCCC as being a Yorkshire team as well? What about the four players and head coach who are from Greater Manchester then? What about the fact that LCCC was founded out of Manchester Cricket Club? Pretty strong connection to Greater Manchester there, I should think. What about the fact that the This is Lancashire website [1] consider Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Everton, Bury, Bolton and Wigan to be under their remit?

I was under the impression that by clearly mentioning that the teams mentioned were from the historic county, we had reached a suitable compromise. If the links to football teams who for 100 years before 1974 were considered to be very much in Lancashire are deemed unsuitable, then the link to a cricket team who spent just twelve years more in Lancashire is similarly unsuitable. The connections for the county cricket team compared to those for the football teams are not even slightly different. --El Pollo Diablo (Talk) —Preceding comment was added at 09:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)